HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes_HARC_09.26.2013City of Georgetown, Texas
Historic and Architectural Rev w Commission Meeting
Minutes
Thursday, September 26, 2013, at 6:00 p.m.
Council and Courts Building.
] O] E. 9�^ Skreet, Geor etown, TX 98626
Members present Anna Eby, Chair; Jennifer Brown; Nancy Knighp David Paul; Tim Urbart;
nd Mary Jo W3ndcr.
Commissioners in Training present. Raymond Wahrenbrock
Commissioners absent Richard Mee and Martine Rousseau
Staff present Matt Synatschk, Historic District Planner; Jackson Daly, Executive Assistant; and
Shelly Hargrove, Main Street Manager
Regular Session - To begin no earlier than 6:00 p. m.
Chair Eby opened the me¢ring at 6:00 p.m. anal read the order of the meeting that was to. be
followed.
The Historic and Architectural Rc--view Commission, appointed by the Mayor and the City
Council, ¢sponsible Eor hearing and [eking final action applications, by ng
Certificates of Design Compliant¢ based upon [he City Cou rtcil adopted Downtown Design
Guidelines and Unified Development Code.
(Commission may, at any time, r s the Regular Session to c n Executive Session ak
the request of the Chair, a Commissioner, the Director or legal counsel for any purpose
authorized by the Open Meerings Act, Texas Govenunent Cod¢ Chapter 551.)
Welcome and Meeting Procedures:
Sea FE Presentation
Applicant Presentation (limited to ten (10) m utes unless stated otherwise by the Commission)
Questions from Commission to Staff and Applicant
Comments from Citizens"
Applicant Response
Commission Deliberative Process
Commission Action
"'Phos¢ who speak must tum in a speaker Form, located at the back of the r m, to the
recording secretary before the. item that they wish to addressbegin Each speaker wfL be
permitted to address tl-.¢ Commission one time only for a maximum of three. (3) mmutes.
Lee�slat v¢ Ag¢rida:
1. Rev and possible approval of the minutes from the August 22> 2013 Kegular HARC
Meetirig and August 1, 2013 Special Called HARC Meeting
Motion by Rnight, second by passl to approve khe minutes of both meetings as presented.
Approved S — O.
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2. Preserve[ion Brief
Synatschh invited John F3ughes to lead a orkshop n ood w ndows. Bccav se of the
amre of his presentation, Mr. Hughes wa unable t nspaak intro them ophone at the
orkshop. Hughc-s highlighted that all w od w ndows a e different Even w ndows within
ngla structure a e dil`ferent, like at the Art Center. 't"hose w ndows w e built in the
1&90s. A kc -y to c ng the longevity of your w ndows is to prime the end grains prior to
nstal Cation. F[ughaes feels on � of spend too much a ey on paint_ He also fools
brushing paint onto w ndows is pmferable over sprayingtbecause spraying does not
ray fill e ery gap. Another concern witl-. wood windows is the putty that is sed to
repair them. The putty can acro ally outlast the wood. You may have to cut wood to remove
the old putty.
Restoring old wood w ndows does r uID in est savings. You do not have to change rhe
nterior finish trim. Yo els -� Ew gla � old w ndo s to get bene ulatio A
drawback ton w glass is loss of thew oftennfound i old glass. Another trick Hughes
likes is the bronze weather stripping. It allows separation between the sash and the frame
nd limits w ndows. sticking_ He c o rages people to u e Maze nails, which a e harder
than most nails and work with old v ood- Hugl-.os then passed a and a pulleyrfrom bhe Art
Center wen dews that was over "100 years old and looped as iF it could work another hundred
yearn_
Winder asked where s old find old wood in repair wooden wu-.dews and Hughes
mld her the[ generally Cra igslist is a good place to find people tearing down old bu tidings
nd selling old growth wood. The best w od is pre -1900 —virgin Amenc-m forest wood lasts
the longest. 2-Iu ghes then gave Urban a Super Blow Pop.
Synatschh led the s end part of the prescrvarion brier He did a quick overview of the
design r - - w process and clarified what staff r s prior to HARC r He also
.E wed Vwhat I IARC v s to mane decisions. the dry charter, the code of ordinances, and
the commission bylaws. Synatschk then went into a mv.ew of the Secretary of Interior
Standards of l2chabaitation.
5. Public 1 -tearing and possible acrion a C'ertificafe of Design Compliance request for
xteriur alterations and addiction at Glasscock Addition, Bloch 12, Lot 1, .16 acres, located at
502 S. Myrtle St (CDC -2013-038)
Fby explained that the architect for this projeca requested this item bo del:bcrated upon First.
Synatschk pressen rod the staff report Synatschk explained this item w=s tabled at the last
eting bee - it did not m et the design guidelines. "I'he appbc nt and a chitect c up
with a olu tion [Fat i eludes the addition but respects the historic chares cter. '1'1-.e gabled
of will rN m nd a shed r of will c r the w po ch. Synatschk cxplo cd The me
of ape building and found additions w ve done without r mg the exterior walls n old
of. "1]a old addition of histo -and m mg w ndo i the n rth side eptable.
The architect will lower the pitch of rho roof on the addition to highlight thatrit as a non -
historic addition.
Bryant Boyd, the architect spoke and said he was plamiing on sticking to the mmtrnalist
style.
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F_by opened the Public Hearing and witl-. ao speakers coming for[}t. closed the hearing
Winder asked abouT thew n down on the Myrkle side of [he street Boyd state -d they w
n -historic. Eby asks -d if it was part of the CDC Co replace the windows. Syaatschk said alit
endows a e historic, but not original and that staff was ok will-. replacing w.ndows
beta usE of Hies lack of docu mcntabon.
Motion by Knighk to approve the application as re -submitted. Second by Urban.
Approved ti — O.
3. Public Hearing and possible action nn a Car Hfica to of Design Compliance Request for
xterior alterations at City of Georgetown, Block 52, Lok ](NE/PT), .039] acres, located at 124
East 8th Street (CDC -2013-030)
Synatschk presented the staff report. This w s for final approval for the railing, door, and
tie -rod c opy for the project. The door will be north o£ the mechanical equipment to
- Mate where a door c ce w n the cask side of the building. The proposed door blends
with the structur ,but ha ode n to ches to illustrate that it i. of historic HARC will
decide on the stair. color. -I-he racing will match Hoc c fisting railing on the ADA r mp. The
roto in ng wall will he matle with bricks pulled from the door way. Staff has approved the
seal haho of a cd c ak tree to re -place the Arizo sh and the applic nt will be ng a
Silva Ccil system. The- trash will be addressed by shortening the steps and me ng trash to
the other side of the steps. This w s the last c of the neighboring properties. Staff has
asked that 1 -IARC approve Iwo site plans m allowrthc applicant to accommodate the
neighbor's wishes.
'The c opy ligh nng hangs from Hie c opy. The lighting above the c opy will be
caled. Synatschk then passed a nd bead board and galvanized aluminum to itlu sera to
the cm cleric is to be used on the c opy. The applicant, David Dollar, was present and
expressed agrc-ement with SynatschKs presentation.
Eby opened the Public Hearing.
David Kellerman (9]2 Shin ock Hills DrJ introduced himself as Chair of the Main Street
Advisory Board. The Board's vision is to provide a stance and gvid ante to business and
property o -s do nto .The Bo rd r s plan nd pr vide etching funds for up
to 50'l of the fa4ade and sign projects costa [Gran[ money i- my give -n when work i-
completcd and HARC must have approved the plan prior to the grant being reccrvc-d. Pic
explained that this project has rece.ved a grant from Main Street.
Larry Olsen (300 E. 9th Street, 3 extra m. utas given by Ed Olsen) worked with neighbors
nd City staff to resolve mash i e. He suggests m ng the trash collection to the south of
the steps nd u - ng steal gate .-1-1e sho ed tw ale aVio - e from the . rel-. and o e fr m
the wast illustrating his plan. He thinks his discussions withtthc City have been productive
nd Ms. Mealy and the Seamans appear happy with the projecf. He suggested re Hrinkbrg
the- retaining wall to be c red with a stone v r [o make it m c uniyue and e se ehe
ability to xpand the rata ning wall in the fu to rc Ht els sked H e n to
reconsider hhe furniture layout because it limits peophs ability to usoc the sidewalk and
appears chat Hie public is not allowed on Hie sidewalk.
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Eby closed the Public Hearing with no other speakers coming forth.
Knight asked iF thea a they w¢ addressing w a patio or a s:dew alk. There is
erbiage nn sidewalk cafes. She said that n n hardly walk a nd Gumbos or the
Hollow because of too m ny tables. New businesses a e going to w'�nt the Cay to have a
Fully a uted sidewalk along Austin Avenue. it's difficult to push a stroller ehough din�a s,
drfn kers card smukors. Page two of the design guidelines highlights that the sidewalk
should only have peck-skrian amenities.
Winder asked about putting tables at the Front of the building, requiring another railing.
Syn atsd�k explained that Guideline 8.11 states that tables and chairs a wed by staff
nd h¢ will work with Hi¢ applicant and code enforcement. HARC is rnly looking at the
ailing and retaining wall materials nn the c st side of the building. "1 -he sidewalk is requued
to have. throe feet n( clearance per ADA standards.
Eby r nded the Commissioners that staff used the design guidelines also to mak¢
decis""ions. Paul mentioned that no tenant was decided upon yet.
Synatschk explained that tenants will have the ability to u e the sidewalk, but it is still a
public sidewalk. H¢ also explained that a mprehensiv¢ sidewalk study is being
n pleted to idem:fy sidewalk priorities city-wide. The highest priorities will be between
the square and the library and 9��- Street between Austin and Main. Knight said the Front of
the building looks great.
Winder had questions about the historic curbing. Synatsehk sta ted that it w vld be
orporated in the retaining wall. Winder expressed c rr. that the proposal had a lot of
brick. The ADA r nip is rete and maybe the retaining wall should blend with the ramp.
She felt that matching the building w of a gond idea. Knight z oted eh¢ brick will be a
stark contrast wah the wall and that HARC needs to consider the adjacent property.
Urban asked i£ Mr. Olson's proposal w what was agreed upon and if tl�¢ co -
okay wiH�. the i n gage. Synatschk said that this w s the agmed upon proposal andtthe a fs
a po.-cibil ity that '[DS will pr vide a dumpster_ Urba asked if sto all w s going to
blend with the brick. Maybe thr_ applicant could explore using a seo �c fapadc
Motion by Knight to approve the application a ub milted mrnus khe railing. Second by
Winder_ Denied 2-4 (Paul, Eby, Urban, Winder opposed)
Motion by Urban to approve the application a ubmitte d, but For the applicant to
explore the option of the retaiuiug wall faSadesto be stop¢ and allow staff approval.
Second by Paul. Approved 4-2 (Knight and Brown opposed)
4. Public He ng and po sibie etio a Ceres ticaw- of Design Complia equ -st fo
xterior alTera tions and signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lot 2(E/P1'), A6395 sore-,
Iota ted at 114 W 8th Str¢¢t. (CDC -2013-(l43) Staff report
Synalschk presented the staff report. '11.e applicant is propos-:ng a ngs, signage, and a
portable sign. The signage tits within the design guidelines aazd sta EF recommends approval.
The apphcanq Kay Briggs, thanked Synatschk for presenting the proposal well.
F.by opened tl�¢ Public Hearing and with no speakers tom ng forth, closed the hearing.
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Knight szid That Guide -line a16 discourages bright, FluoresrenT colors. She feels the hot pink
color of the a -ngs o crpower the building. She suggested making thea nmg black with
pink a nts. IG�ighk also m ntioned Guideline 30.1 that states that the City needs to use
colors that am compatible am ng projects.
Synatschk said there is . o part of the design guidelines that address speciRc a mg colors.
Eby pointed out that the a ng sample is muted c mpared to the rerzdering. Winder
clarified that m¢ c nthas n uthori ty o ng color. synalschk Baia the
n ca my approve a ng sty le.aKnight disagreed and stated Guideline 10.1
allows, th oc con Fo review color. Eby believes Cha pier 10 does noT a idress Types of
colors for awnangs_ 3
Winder asked the c � io look at the overall scheme of true districq not just the
business The bufld irng fa4a do iks¢If is very modem.
Briggs explained she chose pink because of the large tree that blocks her fagade. From every
ngle it is hard To e the building and the fabric of the ng allows ii To skand out "I'he
shade i used pink and has low c nTra st. Thea .rrgs w c low¢.r¢d to a - nt the
rchitecturol fcaTures in the bricks. The colors arc cs retial for v sibility and branding. She
has be -en .n bus.ness nn the square for three years and the- pink is essential to her business.
Knight suggested black with pink lettering and that thea ngs need to work in context
with the rest of the block_ She also said Ghat it did noT look lake the applicant w
xiir.zmg her signage aBotm ent. 'Phe bright pink I¢Tte rs would help the build mg stand
out.
Motion by Knight to approve the applicatiory a ubmiKed, bsst to change thea ng
from pink to black citing Guidelines 10.1 and 9.16. Second by Paul. Denied 3-3. (Eby,
Urban, Winder opposed).
Motion by Winder to approve the application as submitted- Second by Eby. Denied 3-3
(Knight, Passl, Brown opposed)
Knight asked if the applicant would consider changing colors.
Briggs said she w old reduce- the s n( thea ng to highlighT the brick architectural
features, but feels strongly about the color an i ibex black w old not have the s ¢{foot.
She is already on a diffiadt part of the square where it is bar i to geY pedestrian traffic.
There w s discussion between the applicant and c about color options and
possib ili times. Sy natschk stated the commmsron needs to give the applicant clear guidance.
tvlotion by Paul to approve the signage a ssbmitted and for the a -ng to be [abled until
a future meeting. Second by brown. Approved n-2 (Eby and Winder opposed).
6. Public Hearing and possible action o a CertiBcatc of Design Compliance request for
x terior alterations ak Nolen Addition, Block 2, LaT 3-4(PTS), .130 acres, located at 1602 Vine
St. (CDC -2013-042)
Synatschk pr seined d�c sxaff report. Thu residential r odel with exterior alterations to
the po ch. Tl a applie. nt will b¢ eplacrng the po ch with a etc po ch and will be
mplac ng damaged siding. Staff is concerned about the iron columns that may b¢ replaced
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by w oden 6"xH' posts. Staff feels these should be replaced with in-kind materials o.
repaired. The applicant clarified that the damaged siding is actually a replica of the existing
asbestos plan. k.
Motion by Urban [o approve thesignage a submitted, except the applicant needs to
r ¢the ¢ fisting coluvtrts and the seams of the new planks needs to be staggered in
order to hid¢ the remodel. Second by Winder. Approved (6-O).
'>. Update and dacuss:o a Certificate of Design Compliance request for exterior alterations
of Glasscock Addition, Block 11, Lot 3-4, .33 acres, located at 205 East 7th St and 606 Sovth
Myrtle St (CDC -2013-036f
Synatschk presented an update. The property o s }rave a stop work order until October
31 and will submit a application to HARC on November 1. Synatschk met with the
applicant to discuss the doors and street facing windows and what will be required to make
[hem compliant.
S. Questions and commenes from HARC Commissioners in Training. There were none.
9. Updates from staff and r nder about the October 14, 2013 Sign Subcommittee and the
October 24, 2013 HARC meetings.
There will bc- a sign sub -committee meeting on October 14. TheLitNe Caesar's pro)ect bas
pulled c nstruction permas. The applicant on the Austin Ave.. house told Synatschk that he
ved a lot of money by salvaging the old sidingand waned to thank the commission for
the suggestion.
Urban said he likes the upd atcs. He's also concerned about all the. temporary signage he is
sec.ng in the district.
Knight said she will not be attending. the Oct. 14 subcommittee meeting: She also does not
n derstand catty HARC r wed tree expanded sidewalk on item 3 at all. Synatschk
clarified that developers buad sidewalks for the City all the time and that [his s not a
unique situation.
10. Adjournment
Motion to adjourn by Urban. Second by Winder. Approved (6-0).Eby adjourned the
meeting at 9:03 p.
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