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HomeMy WebLinkAboutHARC_Agenda&Minutes_2006Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Special Meeting City of Georgetown, Texas Monday, December 18, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Special Meeting will meet on Monday, December 18, 2006 at 01:00 PM in the Glascock Room of the Georgetown Municipal Complex, located at 300 Industrial Blvd, Georgetown, Texas. If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Special Meeting Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Rick O’Donnell, Vice Chair; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys: Linda McCalla; and John Truehardt Alternates: Nancy Knight; and J. C. Johnson Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 01:00 PM This is a special meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission to consider applications for the Certificate of Design Compliance and to review a conceptual proposal prior to application submittal. 1.CDC-2006-055 Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 38, Lots 2 and 3 (PT) a 0.38 acre portion located at 109 West 7th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-055.pdf 2.CDC-2006-056 Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 50, Lots 5 and 8 (E/PT) a 0.26 acre portion located at 800 South Austin Avenue. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-056.pdf 3.Conceptual review for infill construction at Glasscock Addition, Block 9, Lots 5 and 6, a 0.33 acre portion located at 201 East 9th Street. 4.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/Item3.pdf A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on January 25, 2007. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Special Meeting City of Georgetown, Texas Monday, December 18, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Special Meeting of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Monday , December 18, 2006. Members Present: John Chapman; Clare Easley; Jim Keys, Nancy Knight* and John Truehardt Alternates: J. C. Johnson Members Absent: N/A Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner; and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting These are in draft form until approved at a regular meeting. John Truehardt opened the meeting at 1:06 p.m. Motion by Easley for Truehardt to serve as acting chair of this meeting. Second by Keys. Passed 5 – 0. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.CDC-2006-055 Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 38, Lots 2 and 3 (PT) a 0.38 acre portion located at 109 West 7th Street. Motion by Easley to approve the CDC for 109 W. 7th Street. Second by Chapman. Approved 5 – 0. 2.CDC-2006-056 Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 50, Lots 5 and 8 (E/PT) a 0.26 acre portion located at 800 South Austin Avenue. Rowe reported that all requests of the applicant were in compliance with the Guidelines. Motion by Johnson to approve the CDC as presented. Second by Chapman. Approved 5 – 0. * Nancy Knight entered the meeting. 3.Conceptual review for infill construction at Glasscock Addition, Block 9, Lots 5 and 6, a 0.33 acre portion located at 201 East 9th Street. This was a conceptual discussion to aid the applicant and agent in the design of this property. Commissioners offered the following comments: ·Concern about the blocking of the driveway and access into the property. ·Concern about the curb cuts and driveway location as shown. ·Concern about design compatibility with the adjacent neighborhood and area, exterior balconies and rounded arches do not match area architectural style. The agent, Mrs. Dryer, expressed a desire to donate the existing structure to anyone that would be willing to move it. She stated there was termite damage to the bottom of the house and that would have to be treated before any move could take place. Mrs. Dryer also stated she appreciated the comments from the Commission. 4.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on January 25, 2007. Meeting adjourned at 2:12 p.m. by Truehardt. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, December 7, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Thursday, December 7, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the Council Chambers located at 101 E 7th Street in Georgetown. If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Rick O’Donnell, Vice Chair; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys: Linda McCalla; and John Truehardt Alternates: Nancy Knight; and J. C. Johnson Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the October 26, 2006 meeting. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission 's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.CDC-2006-041 – Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for window signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lots 1 and 4, a 0.33 acre portion located at 114 East 7th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-41.pdf 4.CDC-2006-051 – Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 22 1/2, Lots 5 and 6 located at 1107 Main Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-51.pdf 5.CDC-2006-054 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 49 and Lots 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 8 of Block 48, located at 402 A Main Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-54.pdf 6.CDC-2006-053 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 52, Lot 5 (S/PT) located at 812 Church Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-53.pdf 7.CDC-2006-050 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lot 4, a 0.0111 acre portion located at 812 Main Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-50.pdf Regular Agenda: 8.CDC-2006-048 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for demolition of a non-historic structure at Glasscock Addition, Block 30, Lots 5 and 6 (WPT) located at 611 Elm Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-48.pdf 9.CDC-2006-046 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for rehabilitation of a historic structure, including new paint colors, at Glasscock Addition, Block 4, Lots 5, 6, and 7 located at 313 West 10th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-46.pdf 10.CDC-2006-047 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for a deck addition to a non-historic structure at Lost Addition, Block 14, southeast located at 1104 South Main Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-47.pdf 11.Discussion and possible action on an Interpretation establishing a standardized application of Guidelines 9.6 and 9.9. 12.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and /or staff. A.Discussion of neon “Open” signs. Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on Thursday, January 25, 2007. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, December 7, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , December 7, 2006. Members Present: Attending Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Rick O’Donnell, Vice Chair; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Jim Keys: Linda McCalla; and John Truehardt and J. C. Johnson Members Absent: Beebe Gray Members Present but not participating: Alternates: Nancy Knight Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner; Barbara Quirk, Acting City Attorney; David Munk, Development Engineer; and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting Chair Sparks brought the meeting to order at 6:07 p.m. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. Chair Sparks asked J.C. Johnson to serve on the dais. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the October 26, 2006 meeting. Motion by O’Donnell to approve. Second by Chapman. The minutes were approved 9 – 0. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission 's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.CDC-2006-041 – Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for window signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lots 1 and 4, a 0.33 acre portion located at 114 East 7th Street. 4.CDC-2006-051 – Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 22 1/2, Lots 5 and 6 located at 1107 Main Street. 5.CDC-2006-054 -Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 49 and Lots 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 8 of Block 48, located at 402 A Main Street. 6.CDC-2006-053 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 52, Lot 5 (S/PT) located at 812 Church Street. 7.CDC-2006-050 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lot 4, a 0.0111 acre portion located at 812 Main Street. Item 5 was pulled for discussion. Motion by Truehardt to approve the items from the consent agenda. Second by Easley. Approved 9 – 0. Discussion of Item 5. Easley brought up the fact that she thought this was labeled incorrectly. Rowe confirmed that it was. Motion by Easley to approve the CDC for signage at 402A 8th Street. Second by Truehardt. Approved 9 – 0. Regular Agenda: 8.CDC-2006-048 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for demolition of a non-historic structure at Glasscock Addition, Block 30, Lots 5 and 6 (WPT) located at 611 Elm Street. Rowe presented a summary of the CDC request. This is for a demolition of 611 Elm Street, a residential structure built in 1970. The applicant’s intent is to construct a new residential structure on the site. Motion by McCalla to approve the request for demolition. Second by Chapman. Approved 9 – 0. 9.CDC-2006-046 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for rehabilitation of a historic structure, including new paint colors, at Glasscock Addition, Block 4, Lots 5, 6, and 7 located at 313 West 10th Street. Rowe presented a brief summary of the application. The applicant is proposing to rehabilitate a historic residential structure for use as an office. The non-historic roof would be replaced, as would the concrete underpinning, and a ramp for accessibility would be added to the rear (north) of the structure. The applicant is also proposing new paint colors . The applicant, West Short was available for questions. He stated that they planned to fix the porch and bring the building back to the original status. He alost stated that the City Engineer, David Munk, has agreed to allow parallel parking to save the back yeard. The ramp material would be concrete with lattice skirting, making it look like the original wood. Easley asked about the sign color being different than the colors of the house. Short responded that only the logo is blue. Motion by Trudhardt to approve the CDC noting that the regardless of the ramp structural materials, the lattice underpinning must be wooden and painted to match the house. Second by Damon. Approved 9 – 0. 10.CDC-2006-047 - Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for a deck addition to a non-historic structure at Lost Addition, Block 14, southeast located at 1104 South Main Street. Rowe reported that the Design Guidelines don’t speak to the non-historic nature of this building. The applicant is proposing to add a slightly raised wooden deck on the Main Street / east facade of the structure. David Voelter, agent of the applicant was available for questions. He stated that re realized the loss of two parking spaces was an issue, but that these spaces are currently roped and sectioned off for seating and weren’t being used for parking anyway. He stated that he thought the safety of the customers waiting for a table was more critical than the two parking spaces. Truehardt questioned possible drainage issues. Munk says this is being addressed. Motion by Truehardt to approve the application for CDC. Second by Chapman. Approved 9 – 0. 11.Discussion and possible action on an interpretation establishing a standardized application of Guidelines 9.6 and 9.9. Chair Sparks and Attorney discuss this item to define the process. Quirk directs Chair Sparks that this is not a rewrite of the Guidelines, but the Commission is to give direction of interpretation to staff. The Commission discusses buildings on corners and the definition of the primary and secondary signs. Motion by Truehardt to direct staff to interpret Design Guidelines 9.5 and 9.9 for applications for flush mounted wall signs or awning/canopy signs, that the linear facade width that will be used to determine the square footage of signage allowed will be that of the facade where the proposed sign will be located. Second by Chapman. Approved 8 – 1. (Johnson opposed.) 12.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and /or staff. Discussion of neon “Open” signs. Rowe opened this topic to check on the Commission’s opinions on the neon “Open” signs that have been allowed. No one had any comments. Reminder of the next regular meeting of the Commission on Thursday, January 25, 2007. The Commission was also invited to attend a Special Meeting of the HARC Subcommittee to discuss a concept plan for the property at 9th and Church Streets and two signs, on December 18, 2006 at 1:00 p.m. in the Georgetown Municipal Complex. Motion by Keys to adjourn. The meeting was adjourned at 6:58 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, October 26, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Thursday, October 26, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the Council Chambers, located at 103 E. 7th Street If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Rick O’Donnell, Vice Chair; John Truehardt, Secretary; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys; Linda McCalla Alternates: Nancy Knight; J. C. Johnson Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the September 27, 2006 regular meeting. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission 's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51 Lots 6-8 (PT) located at 817 South Austin Avenue, Suite 101. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-043.pdf Regular Agenda: 4.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lot 2, City of Georgetown, Block 49 and Lots 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 8 of Block 48 located at 402 West 8th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-044.pdf 5.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 2, a 0.0826 acre portion located at 701 Main Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-034a.pdf 6.Conceptual review of preliminary plans for redevelopment of the property at 201 East 9th Street. 7.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and /or staff. A.Discussion of lighting of diamond on the Franklin Jewelers sign. B.Discussion of alternate meeting date for November meeting which would fall on Thanksgiving. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, October 26, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , October 26, 2006. Members Present: John Chapman, Chris Damon, Clare Easley, Linda McCalla, and John Truehardt Alternates present: Nancy Knight and J.C. Johnson Members Absent: Mike Sparks, Rick O’Donnell, Beebe Gray, Jim Keys Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner; Barbara Quirk, Acting City Attorney; and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting John Truehardt called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. In the absence of a Chair, John Truehardt opened the meeting and asked the two alternates, Knight and Johnson to sit on the dais. Then Truehardt asked for nominations for Acting Chair. John Chapman nominated John Truehardt. Second by Clare Easley. Truehardt was elected unanimously. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the September 27, 2006 regular meeting. Motion by McCalla to approve the minutes of the September 27, 2006 regular meeting. Second by Chapman. Approved 7 -0. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission 's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51 Lots 6-8 (PT) located at 817 South Austin Avenue, Suite 101. CDC-2006-043 Motion by Easley to approve the item on the consent agenda. Second by Johnson. Approved 7 – 0. Regular Agenda: 4.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lot 2, City of Georgetown, Block 49 and Lots 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 8 of Block 48 located at 402 West 8th Street. CDC-2006-044 The staff report was presented by Rowe . The applicant, the Georgetown Public Library, is proposing text be cut into the stone facade on 8th Street and metal, back lit lettering be located on the well fence surround on 9th Street. The signage on 9th Street proposes to use two blank walls on a stone enclosure that will exist whether the signage is allowed to located there or not. Rowe stated HARC must decide whether the guidelines are met, whether there is basis for allowing a size modification and whether the signage overwhelms the character of the street/district/structure. The applicant’s architect and library Director , Eric Lashley were present for questions. Easley questioned the green color that was indicated on the sign drawings. The architect stated the green is the same green that is used for the metal pieces on the building and the stone is the same material and color as the building. Both colors and materials were pre-approved by HARC for the building. There was a discussion of the Design Guidelines’ lack of regulations limiting the size of a monument sign and the Unified Development Code standards that do not fit into the Mixed Use-Downtown zoning district. Quirk explained the possible allowance of this sign based on the fact that the size and design of the proposed sign is within the character of the site and surrounding downtown district and is otherwise consistent with the Design Guidelines. Motion by Johnson to approve a Certificate of Design Compliance for the sign located at 402 West 8th Street, the Public Library, based on the findings listed previously by the City Attorney. Second by Easley. Approved 7 – 0. There was additional discussion on the location of the front door and flag poles of the library and the proposed sidewalks. 5.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 2, a 0.0826 acre portion located at 701 Main Street. CDC-2006-034 Damon recused himself from the dais for conflict of interest. Rowe stated she would not be giving a staff report since she was not present at the subcommittee meeting where this was discussed. The applicant was present for questions . The commissioners did not discuss or ask questions. Chapman made a motion, finding the building at 701 Main Street presents unique challenges for sign placement, finding the proposed sign to be distinguishable from the projecting signs intended to be limited in size by the Design Guidelines because of its narrow vertical structure and second story location, and finding the sign to be otherwise in character with the site and landmarks within the District and in keeping with the Design Guidelines, in particular, 9.1, 9.2, 9.13, 9.14, 9.15, 9.17, and 9.20, the sign having a vertical design of no more than three feet width, a height of no more than 60% of the story to which it is attached, materials, and colors which are in character with those seen historically, with the building front, and with the street and which do not obscure the architectural details of the facade, we grant a Certificate of Design Compliance for the sign proposed for 701 Main Street in accordance with the drawings submitted to us today. Second by Knight. Knight reminded everyone that the definition of a blade sign would be discussed by the subcommittee reviewing the Design Guidelines. Chapman reminded everyone that the colors of the actual sign would be slightly different from those on the printed pictures . The motion was called and approved 6 – 0. 6.Conceptual review of preliminary plans for redevelopment of the property at 201 East 9th Street. This item was pulled from discussion at the applicant’s request . 7.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and /or staff. A.Discussion of lighting of diamond on the Franklin Jewelers sign. The Commission agreed that the lighting of the “diamond” was acceptable . Discussion of alternate meeting date for November meeting which would fall on Thanksgiving. The Commission discussed alternatives and decided , with consensus, that the November and December meetings would be combined and meet on Tuesday, December 7. Motion by Knight to adjourn. Second by McCalla. The meeting was adjourned at 6:32 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee and the Historical and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Wednesday, October 18, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee and the Historical and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 02:00 PM in the Glascock Room of the Georgetown Municipal Complex, located at 300-1 Industrial Ave. Georgetown, TX 78626. If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee and the Historical and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Rick O’Donnell, Vice Chair; John Truehardt, Secretary; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys; Linda McCalla Alternates: Nancy Knight; J. C. Johnson Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 02:00 PM Notice is hereby given that a Special Meeting of the Subcommittee of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission will be held on Wednesday, October 18, 2006, at 2:00 p.m. at the Glasscock Room of the Georgetown Municipal Complex, located at 300-1 Industrial Avenue, Georgetown, Texas. This Special Meeting is held in accordance with Section 2.50.040(D) of the Georgetown Code of Ordinances in order to render advice and guidance on new construction or the restoration, alteration, or maintenance of any historic resource or other building within the district. In accordance with the determination of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission on July 24, 2003, the following matter has been determined to be a sign application that can be reviewed by the Subcommittee. Regular Session – Call to order at 2:00 p.m. A.Consideration and possible advice and guidance to the applicant regarding the Design Guidelines and their applicability to the Certificate of Design Compliance application for signage for the property located at 701 Main Street, City of Georgetown (Block 40, Lot 2, a 0.0826 acre tract in the City of Georgetown Addition). Special Note: A public hearing and any final action on an application, if timely received, relating to the above matter will be held by the Historic and Architectural Review Commission on Thursday, October 26, 2006 at 6:00 pm in the City Council Chambers, 101 E. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas 78626. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee and the Historical and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Wednesday, October 18, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee and the Historical and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Wednesday , October 18, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; John Chapman, Clare Easley, Beebe Gray, Jim Keys, Alternates present: Nancy Knight Members Absent: Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Barbara Quirk, acting City Attorney and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting This Special Meeting is held in accordance with Section 2.50.040(D) of the Georgetown Code of Ordinances in order to render advice and guidance on new construction or the restoration, alteration, or maintenance of any historic resource or other building within the district. In accordance with the determination of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission on July 24, 2003, the following matter has been determined to be a sign application that can be reviewed by the Subcommittee. Regular Session – Call to order at 2:00 p.m. Chair Sparks called the meeting to order at 2:04 p.m. There was a brief discussion of how this meeting would be run and a recommendation by the City Attorney. Motion by Easley to follow an informal procedure for this meeting, allowing the subcommittee to discuss advice and recommendations openly with the interested party, reserving further vote for the full commission in its meeting on Thursday, October 26. Second by Chapman. Approved 5 – 0. A.Consideration and possible advice and guidance to the applicant regarding the Design Guidelines and their applicability to the Certificate of Design Compliance application for signage for the property located at 701 Main Street, City of Georgetown (Block 40, Lot 2, a 0.0826 acre tract in the City of Georgetown Addition). Chair Sparks asked the applicant to make a further presentation of the most recent proposed signage. Tara Riley, one of the applicants, explained the need for a larger than allowed 15 square feet sign. They are trying to attract people from outside the immediate area and want them to be able to find the restaurant. They want illumination so that after 4:00 p.m., when their business picks up, and they are on the dark side of the square at that time , that people can see them . The sign size they are asking for is not 35.7 square feet and projecting from the corner of the building. Chair Sparks asked whether the sign was encroaching into anyone’s air space. Ms. Riley responded that no, now that the sign is angled out from the corner, it will be over the sidewalk and not hanging over Heritage Office Supplies. She also stated it was the intent of Romeo’s to meet the Guidelines as closely as possible, but the Guidelines did not work exactly with the configuration of the existing building. Chair Sparks discussed how the commission was originally “hung up” on the fact that there was no definition of a blade sign in the Guideline definitions. He stated that in order for the commission to accept this current sign, they must define and identify the exceptions to the rules that may possible carry over and affect others. There was a discussion among the commissioners on how to change the ruling ordinances. Chair Sparks called on Renée Hanson to give history of this project and suggestions on how to handle the situation. Ms. Hanson reported that she heard about the blade sign at the last HARC meeting. She conferred with Noré Winter, author of the Design Guidelines, who states that a blade sign is a projecting sign, and that if the city changes the definition to include blade signs, it would be setting a precedent for other future signs. Ms. Hanson also stated she met with the applicants and that together they have redesigned the sign to measure 35.7 square feet. She also discussed the issue with a local sign maker, Gordan Baker, who identified a trade standard to define a blade sign that was 60% of the vertical height of a story of the building, having a maximum width of 3 feet, and the outside edge shouldn’t be greater than four feet from the edge of the building. The Romeo’s sign falls within these trade proportions . She stated the typical blade sign is limited in height and designed for pedestrian sight, taking the place of the allowed primary sign. However, because of the architectural details of this building, and the sign has had to move to the second floor, she is recommending that the maximum height allowed for this sign equal the top of the story from which it is installed. Judith Manriquez, co-owner of the building, spoke and stated she has also done research and found that the 60% height restriction may not necessarily be accurate depending on the circumstances. Chair Sparks stated he wants some sort of restriction in place so that not every primary sign is allowed to be a blade sign. There was further discussion of sign size and placement , justifying the current discussed sign design. There was also a discussion of the thickness of the proposed sign . The applicant stated the sign would be no more than 5 – 8 inches thick. Ms. Manriquez wanted the commission to understand the color scheme. She stated that the printed pictures were graphic printings and that the colors were not necessarily true. She stated the sign would consist of red, yellow and black. The applicant agreed to get extra materials to the city staff by Friday morning , for inclusion in the information packets for the commissioners. This sign application will come before HARC next week . No formal action was taken at this meeting. SPECIAL NOTE: A public hearing and any final action on an application, if timely received, relating to the above matter will be held by the Historic and Architectural Review Commission on Thursday, October 26, 2006 at 6:00 pm in the City Council Chambers, 101 E. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas 78626. Motion by Knight to adjourn. Second by Chapman. Meeting adjourned at 2:57 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Wednesday, September 27, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the Council Chambers, located at 101 E. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Rick O’Donnell, Vice Chair; John Truehardt, Secretary; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys; Linda McCalla Alternates: Nancy Knight; J. C. Johnson Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the July 27, 2006 regular meeting. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission 's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lot 1 – 4 (parts), City of Georgetown, Block 39, also to be known as Rufina’s Pottery and Decor, located at 107 East 7th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-039.pdf 4.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage and paint colors at Lot 1, City of Georgetown, Block 50, also to be known as Been Around the Block designs, located at 820 South Austin Avenue. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-040.pdf 5.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lots 5, 6, and the south 1/2 of Lot 7, Glasscock Addition, Block 04, also to be known as West Short and Associates, located at 313 West 10th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-042.pdf Regular Agenda : 6.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lot 2, City of Georgetown, Block 40, located at 701 South Main Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-034.pdf 7.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for demolition of the house at Lot 5 and 6, Glasscock Addition, Block 9, located at 201 East 9th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-038.pdf 8.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and /or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on October 26, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Wednesday, September 27, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Wednesday , September 27, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; John Chapman, Chris Damon, Clare Easley, Beebe Gray, Jim Keys, Linda McCalla, and John Truehardt Nancy Knight and J.C. Johnson Members Absent: Rick O’Donnell Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner; Barbara Quirk, Acting City Attorney; Bobby Ray, Planning Director and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting Chair Sparks called the meeting to order at 6:06 p.m. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. Chair Sparks asked Nancy Knight to serve for absent Rick O’Donnell, and J.C. Johnson to serve for Beebe Gray. Sparks then reviewed the procedures of the meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the July 27, 2006 regular meeting. Corrections were noted on the minutes: Nancy Knight should have been marked absent and a paragraph on the first page was duplicated. Motion by John Chapman to approve the minutes with the noted corrections. Second by Johnson. Approved 8 – 0 – 1. Abstention by Easley. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission 's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lot 1 – 4 (parts), City of Georgetown, Block 39, also to be known as Rufina’s Pottery and Decor, located at 107 East 7th Street. CDC-2006-039 4.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage and paint colors at Lot 1, City of Georgetown, Block 50, also to be known as Been Around the Block designs, located at 820 South Austin Avenue. CDC-2006-040 5.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lots 5, 6, and the south 1/2 of Lot 7, Glasscock Addition, Block 04, also to be known as West Short and Associates, located at 313 West 10th Street. CDC-2006-042 No discussion. Motion by Truehardt to approve the consent agenda items. Second by Johnson. Approved 9 – 0. Beebe Gray came in at 6:15 p.m. and took the dais. J.C. Johnson stepped down. Regular Agenda: 6.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lot 2, City of Georgetown, Block 40, located at 701 South Main Street. CDC-2006-034 Chris Damon recused himself from the dais for this issue and J.C. Johnson was called back. Staff report was given by Rebecca Rowe. The subject property was originally constructed and used as a Masonic Temple and the “signage” was a part of the stone faæade. The building was not intended for commercial use and so no obvious location for signage currently exists on the structure. Traditional placement of a wall sign would obscure architectural details . Additionally, the possible placement of signage is further complicated by the mature oak trees existing at 7th and Main Streets. Rowe stated that some of the guidelines for review of signage, specifically 9.1, 9.2 and 9.14 are subjective and open to interpretation. The proposed sign is backlit, with only the text and outline of the heart to be lit. It is easy to read and has three colors; red, yellow and black that compliment the existing limestone. The recommendation is based on staff’s interpretation of the signage and its relation to the building as a whole. Staff recommends approval of the CDC for flush mounted wall signs as presented. Johnson questioned whether this is one sign or two signs. Easley questioned the definition of faæade versus primary faæade and the allowable, contributable length and the calculation of the allowable sign size. Rowe stated she calculated the total linear sign footage allowed based on the UDC allowances of both facades, because the Design Guidelines are lacking in applicable definitions. She conducted her analysis using the Design Guidelines and then the UDC as a guide where the Design Guidelines were lacking definition. Commission further discussed architectural details of this building and its history. The applicant, Terra Riley, presented the justification of the sign. She stated the signage for this restaurant is very critical to the business model and that it must be visible to be effective. The proposed sign would be visible from the 8th Street side of the square and Main Street. It is to be internally lit. She sated that they had originally requested a blade sign, but that the blade sign, or projecting sign, was not given in the Design Guidelines so they were advised to apply for the wrap around sign that is presented. She stated she would rather have the blade sign and gave a picture to the commission. Chair Sparks stated he appreciated her bringing this forward, but that the commission must vote on the application before them for the flush-mounted, wraparound sign. Riley stated she was just asking for a CDC for a sign that they could have for the opening of their business in November. Riley stated signage makes a large difference in the success of the business and she presented facts and reports to back her statements. The size of the proposed sign was discussed after the Chair’s question. The proposed sign is 12’4” x 2’11” on each side for a total sign face size of 36.004 square feet per side. This will project a few inches from the limestone to avoid the existing gutter and the roughness of the limestone. Commissioner Knight questioned not being allowed to discuss the alternative sign that was provided. Attorney Quirk stated the option is open to the Commission if staff is able to make a recommendation or review and that if the alternative sign is deemed as not being a substantive change, then the alternative sign can be voted on. Chair Sparks says he thinks the alternative sign is a different type of sign and is therefore not open for discussion . Commissioner McCalla left the meeting at 6:50 p.m. Chair Sparks opened the public hearing. Judith Manriquez, 1708 S. Olive. Ms. Manriquez spoke as the owner of the building that wants this business to succeed. She urged the commission to please consider the blade sign and further urged approval of any sign. Bob Weimer, 118 W. 8th Street. Mr. Weimer is owner of another business on the square and stated he was therefore aware of the importance of signage to business. He supports Romeo’s and welcomes them and hopes they succeed in putting “feet on the street”. Harold Steadman, 101 Yucca Cove. Mr. Steadman stated appreciation for HARC watching out for the historic integrity of Georgetown. He is looking forward to having dinner on the Square for his anniversary. He asked for approval of the CDC, stating that HARC should listen to staff since they were paid to know what was in compliance and what was not. Robert Phipps, 1404 Elm Street. Mr. Phipps appreciates the charming square and stated that if this sign is allowed then HARC would be setting a precedent. He stated he didn’t want a garish sign on a historic building that already had charm. Pat Kucler, 316 E. 7th Street. She offered her time to Renee Hanson. Barbara Meyer, 705 E. 3rd Street. Ms. Meyer stated she has lived downtown and been a member of the Heritage Society for many years. She stated Georgetown is unique and has received much acclaim for its historic character. She wants to maintain these standards and use the Design Guidelines to keep them. She asked for denial of the garish sign. Karen Lee Davis, 915 E. 3rd Street. Ms. Davis is a resident of Windridge Village and stated she chose to live here not for the commercialism, but for the historic district’s character. She requested that staff work for the people that want the historic success of Georgetown and not for a city that looks like Round Rock. Margie Ranc, 1310 E. 3rd Street. Ms. Ranc stated she is a new resident of Georgetown and has a marketing and tourism background. She said there are other ways to market a business with Georgetown style, without ruining the ambience of the square. She asked for denial of the CDC. Rick Williamson, 204 Holly Street. Mr. Williamson stated he came to Georgetown to get away from the commercialism and because he likes the downtown ambience. He stated he wants the historic character to prevail and he did not want the guidelines to change, setting precedence for the area across the street from the renovated historic courthouse. Roy Jones, 366 Sedro Trail. Mr. Jones stated he was a frequent user of the square and he likes the sign. He said beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that they need to accomplish advertising and attract the eye. He urged for approval. Mel Pendland, Chamber of Commerce. Mr. Pendland urged the Commission to exercise their discretion to approve the blade sign, the second application that was received. He defended staff, stating people may disagree on an opinion, but that staff is trained and qualified to interpret the code and guidelines. He urged for approval. Len Lester, 713 S. Main Street. Mr. Lester introduced himself as another business owner on the square. He stated he has been in their shoes and that the guidelines are difficult to interpret and apply. He stated that downtown is the heart of Georgetown, but that people have many other options now. He wants downtown to be successful and made relative to today’s way of life. He urged approval of the sign for the new business to be successful. Margarite Holt, 719 S. Main Street. Ms. Holt is the owner of the Hill Country Bookstore on the square and stated she almost chose Salado for her business, but she liked Georgetown better. She followed the Design Guidelines and stated it doesn’t work. She stated she has been there for 11 years and people still don’t know she’s there. She asked that HARC make it easier to do business in Georgetown on the square. Paul Fransek, 212 W. 7th Street, Abbey’s Barstools on the Square. He stated that his business is suffering because he is competing with Wolf Ranch. He wants to keep the heritage too but to gain some sort of competitive edge. He says his customers have a hard time finding him because of the bad signage with which he has had to comply. Linda Spiers, 351 Mason Court. Ms. Spiers stated that she chose Georgetown because of its charm and remarkable job of keeping the town true to its roots. She thinks the other cities can have chain stores but that the town square should remain true and it does not need the flash that would compromise its integrity. Renee Hanson, 1252 S. Austin Avenue. Ms. Hanson welcomed Romeo’s to Georgetown but stated she wants them to respect the historic district that they are coming in to. She stated it is what brings people to the downtown area and that tourism is important but so is integrity. She stated the proposed sign is not compatible with the guidelines and asked for denial of the CDC. Chair Sparks closed the public hearing. Motion by Easley to deny the application for Certificate of Design Compliance. The sign does not meet the following guidelines: 9.1 Strip development commercial patterns or attention getting signs do not fit in with the character of the square. 9.2 A sign shall be subordinate to the overall building composition. 9.5 A flush mounted wall sign shall not exceed one square foot for every one foot of linear facade width. 9.13 A sign should not in any way obscure or compete with architectural details of an historic building facade. 9.14 Signs that are out of character with those seen historically and that would alter the historic character of the street are inappropriate. 9.15 Sign materials should be compatible with that of the building facade. And 9.17 Use colors for the sign that are compatible with those of the building front. Second by Johnson. Commission deliberated the motion. Vote: 6 – 2. Knight and Truehardt opposed. Commissioner Gray asked about the alternative plan that was submitted. Sparks stated he thinks it is significantly different from the sign that was applied for and cannot be discussed. He suggested calling a subcommittee meeting to address this as quickly as possible. Staff reminded him that a new application requires 15 days notification posting. Commissioner Damon came back on the dais. Johnson stayed as McCalla vacated her seat earlier. 7.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for demolition of the house at Lot 5 and 6, Glasscock Addition, Block 9, located at 201 East 9th Street. CDC-2006-038 Rowe presented the staff report. The applicant is requesting permission to demolish or remove the historic structure. The subject property is a high priority structure according to the City of Georgetown’s Historic Resource Survey. It is estimated to have been constructed in 1890. In 1984, when the survey was conducted, the structure was listed in good condition. Since then, the property has been written up by the City’s Code Enforcement office for noncompliance with the Property Maintenance Code. This property is also in violation of Section 4.06.010 (D) of the Unified Development Code – Demolition by Neglect. It has not been declared a dangerous building by the Building Official. Staff is recommending denial of this application based on Section 3.13.010 (D) (2) that states that a CDC for Demolition will not be issued until there is an approved site plan addressing what will be developed on the site after the demolition or removal. A denial would give the applicant 175 days before the structure can be removed. Discussion among commissioners about neglect. Motion by Easley for denial of the Certificate of Design Compliance for demolition or removal of 201 East 9th Street. Second by John Chapman. CDC denied 9 – 0. 8.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and /or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on October 26, 2006. §Sparks announced that the training sessions planned for October will be delayed until after the first of the calendar year. §Rowe reported that property at Main and University is being renovated for property maintenance and repair and may be painted. This is probably going to have a new owner . Rowe asked for guidance on whether to stay with the blue color paint or to go with new style. She was directed to let the new owner know that they would be expected to come to HARC for any exterior changes. §Discussion of schedule and possible meetings for application submittal for Romeo’s signage. Motion by Easley to adjourn. Second by Chapman. Meeting adjourned at 8:23 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, August 31, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee will meet on Thursday, August 31, 2006 at 03:00 PM in the Georgetown Municipal Complex, located at 300-1 Industrial Avenue If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee Members: Rick O’Donnell, Secretary; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Nancy Knight Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 03:00 PM A special meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.CDC-2006-034 Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 2, a 0.0826 acre portion located at 701 Main Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-034.pdf 2.CDC-2006-035 Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 42, Lots 3 and4 (pts) located at 716 Rock Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-035.pdf 3.CDC-2006-036 Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lot 4 located at 102 West 8th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-036.pdf 4.CDC-2006-037 Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 38, Lots 2 and 3, a 0.3581 acre portion located at 115 West 7th Street. http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-037.pdf 5.Reminder of next regularly scheduled meeting on September 28, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, July 27, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Thursday, July 27, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the Council Chambers, located at 101 E. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Rick O’Donnell, Vice Chair; John Truehardt, Secretary; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys; Linda McCalla Alternates: Nancy Knight; J. C. Johnson Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the June 22, 2006 regular meeting. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 49, eastern portion of Lot 1 located at 802 and 806 Rock Street. CDC-2006-033 For more information, click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-033.pdf 4.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 6, a 0.069 acre portion located at 713 South Main Street. CDC-2006-031 For more information, click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-031.pdf 5.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 14, Lot 5 located at 307 Rock Street. CDC-2006-029 For more information, click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-029.pdf 6.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 35, Lot 1 & 2, a 0.275 acre portion located at 600-C Forest. CDC-2006-028 For more information, click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-028.pdf Regular Agenda : 7.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage and fencing at City of Georgetown, Block 39, Lots 2 and 3, a 0.0699 acre portion located at 107 East 7th Street. CDC-2006-032 For more information, click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-028.pdf 8.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 38, Lot 3, a 0.3581 acre portion located at 109 West 7th Street, Suite 100. CDC-2006-030 For more information, click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-030.pdf 9.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for structure moving and restoration at Dalrymple Addition, Block G, a 0.258 acre portion located at 402 University. CDC-2006-026 For more information, click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-026.pdf 10.Public hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for demolition of a portion of a historic structure and a replacement addition at City of Georgetown, Block 52, Lot 3 located at 805 South Main Street. CDC-2006-025 For more information, click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-025.pdf 11.Discussion of rules and regulations governing the conduct of business by the Commission. 12.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on August 24, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, July 27, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , July 27, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; John Chapman, Chris Damon, Beebe Gray, Jim Keys, Linda McCalla, Rick O’Donnell and John Truehardt Alternates present: Nancy Knight and J.C. Johnson Members Absent: Clare Easley Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting This is a draft version of the minutes until approved at the next regular meeting of the commission. The meeting was called to order at 6:05 p.m. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission , for consideration and possible action on the following: The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. Sparks appointed J.C. Johnson to serve in place of Easley. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the June 22, 2006 regular meeting. Motion by Truehardt to approve the minutes of June 22, 2006. Second by Damon. Approved 7 – 0. (Gray had not taken the dais yet.) Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission 's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 49, eastern portion of Lot 1 located at 802 and 806 Rock Street. CDC-2006-033 4.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 6, a 0.069 acre portion located at 713 South Main Street. CDC-2006-031 5.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 14, Lot 5 located at 307 Rock Street. CDC-2006-029 6.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 35, Lot 1 & 2, a 0.275 acre portion located at 600-C Forest. CDC-2006-028 Motion by Truehardt to approve the items on the consent agenda. Second by O’Donnell. Approved 8-0. Regular Agenda: 7.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage and fencing at City of Georgetown, Block 39, Lots 2 and 3, a 0.0699 acre portion located at 107 East 7th Street. CDC-2006-032 Rowe presented the staff report. The applicant is proposing a projecting sign and window signage , as well as replacing a privacy fence with wrought iron fencing. She explained the purpose of the gate and iron fence is to allow better vehicle access for unloading, and to improve visibility in the parking lot. The applicant was not present for comments . Motion by Johnson to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for signage and wrought iron fence at 107 East 7th Street. Second by Truehardt. Approved 8 – 0. 8.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 38, Lot 3, a 0.3581 acre portion located at 109 West 7th Street, Suite 100. CDC-2006-030 Rowe presented the staff report. The applicant is proposing window signage , a hanging sign, and a flush mounted wall sign. The agent, Gordan Baker, was present for the applicant to answer questions. He presented an example of the proposed “diamond” sign that would be used. There was a discussion of the illumination of the diamond and Baker said the intent was to be subtle. Motion by Johnson to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for the signage, subject to further scrutiny of the strength of the illumination, by the sign review subcommittee. Second by Keys. Approved 8 – 0. 9.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for structure moving and restoration at Dalrymple Addition, Block G, a 0.258 acre portion located at 402 University. CDC-2006-026 Staff report was presented by Rowe. The applicant is proposing to move a historic home from 3500 FM 971 to the empty lot at 402 University. The move would necessitate a dilapidated porch to be rebuilt. The applicant is also proposing to repaint the body of the house a sage green color with white trim and black accents. The house and garage will be situated on the lot with the same setbacks as other residential structures on the street. The front yard will be maintained as a front yard and parking will be accommodated on an existing circular drive. Upon the structure’s relocation to 402 University the applicant will be requesting a rezoning of the property to Mixed Use Downtown (MUDT) district. The structure will be used for a real estate office by the applicant. The applicant has a parking requirement of 4 parking spaces (1 parking space for every 500 sq ft. of floor space). The applicant is requesting an alternative parking plan which would utilize tandem parking spaces in an existing driveway which will be paved. This would allow the applicant to keep the majority of the pervious cover and open space in the yard rather than pave to create a parking lot. Additionally, on street parking is available on Forest Street. Staff recommends approval of the application. Commissioner Linda McCalla came in. Motion by Truehardt to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for moving the structure and the parking plan to meet all requirements for whatever use is allowed and approved by the City. Second by Damon. A discussion was held regarding the parking situation. Motion by Johnson to amend the original motion to stipulate the second building, the storage building have a hip roof. No second was forthcoming. Amendment dies. Motion by Truehardt to amend the original motion to add “under no circumstances will parking block the driveways.” Second by O’Donnell. Approved 9 – 0. Original motion approved 9 – 0. 10.Public hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for demolition of a portion of a historic structure and a replacement addition at City of Georgetown, Block 52, Lot 3 located at 805 South Main Street. CDC-2006-025 Staff report was presented by Rowe. The applicant is proposing to demolish an existing addition located on the rear, east, facade due to structural decline. They further propose to rebuild the addition utilizing the existing footprint, similar materials and design. The addition is not prominent and is only readily visible from the parking lot on Main Street. Commissioners discussed building materials with the applicant and the architect. Questions were clarified. Motion by McCalla to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for partial demolition of an addition to a historic structure and construction of a new addition including materials and scale. Second by Chapman. Approved 9 – 0. 11. Discussion of rules and regulations governing the conduct of business by the Commission. Barbara Quirk, acting City attorney, presented a workshop on Robert’s Rules of Order and clarified questions for the commission. 12.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and /or staff. A.Reminder of the next regular meeting of the Commission on August 24, 2006. Motion by Chapman to adjourn the meeting. Meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee City of Georgetown, Texas Wednesday, July 26, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee will meet on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 at 03:00 PM in the Georgetown Municipal Complex Conference Room A, located at 300-1 Industrial Avenue, Georgetown, Texas If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee Members: Mike Sparks, Clare Easley, Linda McCalla, Nancy Knight Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 03:00 PM This is a workshop of a Subcommittee of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, organized to discuss Chapter 9 – Design Guidelines for Signs and the proposed Chapter 13 – Design Guidelines for Paint, of the Downtown Design Guidelines and to make recommendations regarding such to the Commission. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, June 22, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the 103 W. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Vice Chair; John Chapman; Chris Damon, Cleare Easley, Beebe Gray, Jim Keys, Linda McCalla, Rick O'Donnell and John Truehardt Alternate: Nancy Knight Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the April 27, 2006 regular. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lots 6 & 7, a 0.1446 acre portion located at 113 West 9th Street. For more information click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-023.pdf 4.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Glasscock Addition , Block 22, Lots 1 & 2 a 0.27 acre portion located at 1104 Church Street. For more information click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-024.pdf 5.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for landscaping and impervious coverage exception at Glasscock Addition, Block 4, Lots 1, 2 and 4 located at 900 – 1000 Rock Street. For more information click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-022.pdf Regular Agenda: 6.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for new canopy at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lots 6-8 located at 817 South Austin Avenue. For more information click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-019.pdf 7.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for renovation of a non-historic structure at City of Georgetown, Block 49, Lot 1 (W/PT) a 0.55 acre portion located at 308 West 8th Street. For more information click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-020.pdf 8.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for renovation of a non-historic structure at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 1, a 0.0882 acre portion located at 700 South Austin Avenue. For more information click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-021.pdf 9.Discussion and possible action to direct staff to amend and expand the Design Guidelines for Downtown Georgetown including amending Chapter 9, Signage and adding Chapter 13, Paint. 10.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on July 27, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, June 22, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , June 22, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; John Chapman, Chris Damon, Clare Easley, Beebe Gray, Jim Keys, Linda McCalla, Rick O’Donnell and John Truehardt Members Absent: None Members Present but not participating: Nancy Knight and J.C. Johnson Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. No alternates served at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the May 25, 2006 regular meeting. Motion by Truehardt to approve the minutes. Second by Chapman. Approved 9 – 0. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lots 6 & 7, a 0.1446 acre portion located at 113 West 9th Street. CDC-2006023 4.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Glasscock Addition, Block 22, Lots 1 & 2 a 0.27 acre portion located at 1104 Church Street. CDC-2006-024 5.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for landscaping and impervious coverage exception at Glasscock Addition, Block 4, Lots 1, 2 and 4 located at 900 – 1000 Rock Street. CDC-2006-022 Item 5 was pulled from the Consent Agenda for further discussion. Motion by Chapman to approve items 3 and 4, consistent with staff recommendation. Second by Easley. Approved 9 – 0. Item 5 was opened for discussion. Chair Sparks questioned the possible removal of trees on the lot. Rowe responded that the Mixed Use Downtown use allows 70% impervious cover on a lot, or up to 95% impervious cover with HARC approval. This application is for 75% impervious cover. The trees along 10th Street will stay, two trees in the front of the property will come out, along with a pecan tree in the back. There was discussion of landscaping and curb cut options that might save more trees. Chair Sparks asked that the applicants look at all possible layouts of the lot to save as many trees as possible. Motion by Truehardt to approve item 5 consistent with the staff recommendation. Second by O’Donnell. Approved 9 – 0. Regular Agenda : 6.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for new canopy at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lots 6-8 located at 817 South Austin Avenue. CDC-2006-019 Rowe presented the staff report. The applicant is proposing to construct a metal canopy that would run the length of the Austin Avenue facade. Construction of the canopy as proposed would require the removal of a mature Crape Myrtle on Austin Avenue. Removal of this tree would leave only two street trees on this block. Street trees are a requirement under the Unified Development Code and the Design Guidelines and are encouraged by the Downtown Master Plan. The applicant has requested that the tree be removed and the City of Georgetown has declined this request. The City of Georgetown will not be removing the existing Crape Myrtle so the canopy cannot span the entire facade as proposed. Rowe recommends approval of the canopy only making it shorter to accommodate the tree. Motion by McCalla to approve the canopy style and material as proposed, with stipulation that it not extend past the southern edge of the south most window so that the crape myrtle tree is protected. Second by Gray. Approved 9 – 0. 7.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for renovation of a non-historic structure at City of Georgetown, Block 49, Lot 1 (W/PT) a 0.55 acre portion located at 308 West 8th Street. CDC-2006-020 Rowe presented the staff report. The applicant is proposing to remove the existing awning and replace it with a fixed metal canopy. They will also be painting the building and adding signage. The current application is Phase 1 of a 2-phase project. The primary facade is 40 linear feet so the proposed sign shall not exceed 40 sq. ft. The applicant, Frank Lanfear was available for questions. Easley asked what phase 2 would be. He responded that phase 2 would be the doors and windows and sign lighting. This building shares an outdoor patio with the new library that is being built. There was a discussion of canopy materials and what is being proposed. Motion by Truehardt to issue a Certificate of Design Compliance for paint, canopies and signage with the condition that the signage be constructed of wood, MDO or sign grade foam, not to exceed 40 sq. ft., with the condition that the awning brackets be reviewed by a HARC subcommittee. Second by McCalla. Approved 9 – 0. 8.Public Hearing and discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for renovation of a non-historic structure at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 1, a 0.0882 acre portion located at 700 South Austin Avenue. CDC-2006-021 Rowe presented the staff report. She stated there was not a precedent by which to review this project. The applicant is proposing to add a second floor to the existing structure consistent with the second floor that was a part of the original structure. There would also be a significant renovation of the first floor including new windows on first and second floors of Austin Avenue and 7th Street, new entry and doors on Austin Avenue and 7th Street, awnings and a cornice based on the original structure. The new entries on both Austin Avenue and 7th Street would be recessed. Historic photographs show that there was once a two story wood Victorian structure on the site. The current structure has been said to date from the 1920’s or 1930’s though no specific documentation has been found to confirm a certain date. The structure is listed as Medium Priority on the Historic Resource Survey and as a non-contributing structure in the Williamson County Courthouse National Register District. See “Special Considerations” for more detailed information. Chair Sparks made comment that he wanted to carefully consider the replacement of this building even though it is considered a “non-contributing” building. His stated in his opinion a building that is over 70 years old makes a significant contribution to the square. The matching of the second floor addition and its compatibility to the existing building and surrounding buildings is important. The applicant’s architect, Bryant Boyd, was available for questions. He gave a bit of history of the building and why the building looks the way it does today. There was a fire in the 1930’s that burned the building down and it was rebuilt at that time, hence the architecture of the time. He tried to apply the design elements from that era but did not feel that it fit the area. He is trying to improve the building’s use and compliment the design. He explained that they intend to build a steel infrastructure inside the existing brick frame and to stabilize the foundation by replacing the flooring and footings. This will also stabilize the shared wall with the adjacent building. They are proposing the lower level will remain brick and the upper level will be EFIS finished. Commissioners discussed the possibilities of brick and the upper floor finish. They discussed the pros and cons of EFIS versus stucco and the durability of the materials. Commissioners also discussed the vertical elements of the side of the building and the upstairs windows. Motion by Easley to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for design, materials (including texture) and paint colors with the condition that the first floor facade on Austin Avenue use brick as the primary material and that the second floor windows on the 7th Street side of the building be elongated an extra one and a half feet. Second by Chapman. Easley amended her motion to issue the Certificate of Design Compliance, with the exception of the window height that would be brought back to a HARC Subcommittee for review. Second by Chapman. Approved 9 – 0. Original motion approved 9 – 0. 9.Discussion and possible action to direct staff to amend and expand the Design Guidelines for Downtown Georgetown including amending Chapter 9, Signage and adding Chapter 13, Paint. Rowe asked that Commissioners review Chapter 9 and Chapter 13 and possibly make revisions to make the guidelines more specific to the desires of the Commission. She proposed a subcommittee to investigate and draft new guidelines to bring back to the Commission for recommendation to City Council. Easley, O’Donnell, McCalla, and Knight volunteered to serve on the Subcommittee. Gordan Baker of Baker Signs was available to consult with the group on signage. Motion by Easley to appoint a subcommittee to investigate signage and paint and make recommendation to the Commission. Second by Damon. Approved 9 – 0. 10.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on July 27, 2006. Motion by Truehardt to adjourn. Meeting adjourned at 7:24 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, May 25, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Thursday, May 25, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the 103 W. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Karalei Nunn, Vice Chair; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys, Rick O’Donnell; John Truehardt Alternates: Linda McCalla; Nancy Knight Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the April 27, 2006 regular meeting. 3.Consideration and possible action on a new Vice Chair and new Secretary. Regular Agenda : 4.CDC-2006-016 Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for rehabilitation of a historic structure at City of Georgetown, Block 5, Lot 4 located at 812 Main Street. For more information, please click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-016.pdf 5.CDC-2006-007 Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for height exception, 4th floor design and materials at City of Georgetown, Block 27 located at 501 South Austin Avenue. For more information, please click here: http://www.georgetown.org/gis/plds/HARC/CDC-2006-007.pdf 6.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on June 22, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, May 25, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , May 25, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; Chris Damon; Clare Easley, Jim Keys, Nancy Night, Linda McCalla, Rick O’Donnell and John Truehardt Members Absent: John Chapman, and Beebe Gray Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner; Bobby Ray, Planning director; Barbara Quirk, City Attorney and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. Sparks appointed Nancy Night to serve as the alternate for John Chapman. He also stated that Karalei Nunn had resigned from her position on the commission and Linda McCalla has been elevated to a regular member’s position. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the April 27, 2006 regular. Motion by Easley to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of April 27, 2006. Second by Truehardt. Approved 8 – 0. 3.Consideration and possible action on a new Vice Chair and new Secretary. Motion by Night to appoint Rick O’Donnell as the Vice Chair and John Truehardt as Secretary, at the Chairs recommendation. Second by Easley. Approved 8 – 0. Regular Agenda : 4.CDC-2006-016 Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for rehabilitation of a historic structure at City of Georgetown, Block 5, Lot 4 located at 812 Main Street. Rick O’Donnell recused himself from the dais. Notarized Conflict of Interest form is on file. Rowe presented the staff report. The applicant is proposing to rehabilitate and restore the structure at 812 Main Street. This will include removing a non-historic canopy, removing paint from the bricks and restoring the historic configuration of the storefront. The applicant was available for questions. Commissioner Truehardt reminisced about the building being a cafe in the 1930’s, Waley’s Cafe and remembered the door being flush with the building. He questioned the applicant about the status of the canopy. The applicant stated the canopy was deteriorating and needed to be removed. Motion by Easley to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for rehabilitation including paint removal, new windows and transoms, new entry location and configuration, removal of the canopy and paint colors should repainting be necessary. Second by Damon. Approved 7 – 0. (O’Donnell abstained.) 5.CDC-2006-007 Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for height exception, 4th floor design and materials at City of Georgetown, Block 27 located at 501 South Austin Avenue. Rowe presented the staff report. The applicant is proposing to add a 4th floor to his already approved Phase I structure. The proposed 4th floor would bring the building to a total height of 46 feet which is 8 feet over the by-right maximum in the downtown district. The applicant is asking for a height exception as well as approval of the design and materials for the proposed 4th floor. She stated per Section 4.06.020 (B) of the Design Guidelines and Section 4.09 of the Unified Development Code, the Historic and Architectural Review Commission (HARC) can approve exceptions to the maximum height in the Downtown Overlay District with the following criteria: Views to and from the Courthouse and to and from the Town Square Historic District will be protected; The character of the Downtown Overlay District and the Town Square Historic District will be defined, reinforced, and preserved; The relationship of the proposed project to the existing structures in the immediate vicinity remains consistent; The proposed project allows for the best utilization of redevelopment in the Downtown Overlay District and the Town Square Historic District; and, the proposed project protects the historic buildings in the Downtown Overlay District and no historic structures will be directly impacted by this project. Mr. Choi, the applicant, addressed the Commission. He thanked the Commissioners for their time and review during the last few months. The Chair thanked him for his presentations and vision. Easley, O’Donnell, and McCalla all offered commendations on the extraordinary drawings and design and working with the commission to make the building compliant with the Design Guidelines. Mr. Choi was asked what would be on the 4th floor. He responded he envisioned a residence or a spa. He was asked about the windows of the 4th floor, rectangular or arched. Mr. Choi asked to be able to make that decision later. Chair Sparks opened the Public Hearing. Bob Weimer, Serenada resident & President of Downtown Georgetown Association. He looks forward to the future of this building. Other businesses rely on the growth of Georgetown and this facility is a strong sign that Georgetown is growing. Scott Allercon, 1000 Bluff Meadow Cove, Chairman of the Board, Chamber of Commerce and St. David’s Hospital COO. He stated that studies show the wellness improvements like the ones provided in this facility will decrease the cost of overall healthcare. He has had the opportunity to work with Dr. Choi and he appreciates her vision of a healthy lifestyle. He welcomes this facility as a world class geriatric wellness facility. Ron Swain, 103 Diamond Trail. He and his wife are involved in Georgetown and love it because the people in this city care for each other, and the quality of life and the historic square in Georgetown reminds them of their favorite location, Chapel Hill, South Carolina. As a representative of city residents, he stated that the viability of the downtown area is essential to maintaining a higher standard of living in Georgetown. He spoke in favor of the new project and its contribution to the downtown area. Marlene McMichael, 210 Westbury Lane. VP Public Policy with Chamber of Commerce, Planning & Zoning Commissioner. She supports the Sun Star Plaza, the architecture that compliments the downtown area, the high density use, the building profile with 4 floors, the pedestrian friendly atmosphere and the fact that it will bring many people to the area. Brad Curlee, President Union State Bank. He spoke in favor of increasing the economic viability of the downtown area, and in favor of the 4th floor height variance to improve the investment in downtown and to be successful. He supports the development that will bring a beautiful building and a geriatric center that will bring in higher paid workers and visitors. Mel Pendland, 30207 Oak Tree, President of Chamber of Commerce. He stated the 1000 members of the chamber support this building and thanked the Choi’s for bringing it to the area. He urged the commissioners to vote yes on this project, as it is essential to a viable community. Chair Sparks closed the Public Hearing. Motion by Truehardt to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance and height exception to allow the building to measure 48 feet in height, 4th floor design and materials including both option “A” and option “B” for window design, noting the exceptions for height and meeting the Unified Development Code Section 4.06.02b3 and Sections 4.06.020 and 4.09 of the Design Guidelines for the 4th floor. Second by Damon. Approved 8 – 0. Commissioners and Mr. Choi received applause. 6.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on June 22, 2006. Motion by Easley to adjourn. Chair Sparks adjourned the meeting at 7:05 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, April 27, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Thursday, April 27, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the City Council Chambers located at 101 W. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Karalei Nunn, Vice Chair; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys, Rick O’Donnell; John Truehardt; Alternates: Nancy Knight and Linda McCalla Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the March 1, 2006 regular meeting and the March 17, 2006 subcommittee meeting. 3.Consideration and possible action on a new Vice Chair and new Secretary. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 4.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage and rear facade changes at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 4 (PT) located at 708 South Austin Avenue, Suite 101. 5.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 4 (PT) located at 708 South Austin Avenue, Suite 201. Regular Agenda: 6.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lost Addition, Block 69 (PT), a 0.303 acre portion located at 214 West University. 7.Request for an amended Certificate of Design Compliance for paint colors at Lost Addition, Block 65 (SW/PT), a 0.3122 acre portion located at 215 West University. 8.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for renovation of structure at Lost Addition, Block 64 (PT), a 0.12 acre portion located at 211 West 11th Street. 9.Discussion on proposed amendments to the Unified Development Code pertaining to the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, the Downtown Overlay District and Historic Structures. 10.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on May 25, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, April 27, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , April 27, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; Chris Damon; Clare Easley, Jim Keys, Linda McCalla, Rick O’Donnell and John Truehardt Members Absent: John Chapman, Beebe Gray, Nancy Knight, and Karalei Nunn Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. Linda McCalla was asked to sit on the dais. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the March 1, 2006 regular meeting and the March 17, 2006 subcommittee meeting. Motion by Damon to approve the minutes of the March 17, 2006. Second by Truehardt. Approved 5-0. (Easley and McCalla were not present for this vote.) There was not a motion for the approval of the March 1 minutes because there was not a quorum of people that were present at that meeting. 3.Consideration and possible action on a new Vice Chair and new Secretary. There was no action taken on this because the Chair voiced a concern that Commission membership would be changing in the near future and this item needed to be addressed after that time. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission 's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted. 4.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage and rear facade changes at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 4 (PT) located at 708 South Austin Avenue, Suite 101. This item was pulled from Consent Agenda and placed as the first item in the regular agenda . Rowe gave the staff report. She summarized the applicant is proposing a temporary banner, door signage and an above canopy sign. They are also proposing changes to the rear of the building including improvements to the rear deck and stairs and adding an exhaust air hood and intake screen for the restaurant. Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Design Compliance. Commissioners asked questions of Rowe and deliberated amongst themselves. Motion by Truehardt to approve the request as outlined in the application and recommended by staff. Second by Damon. Approved 6 – 0. 1 abstention by Easley. 5.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 4 (PT) located at 708 South Austin Avenue, Suite 201. Motion by Truehardt to approve the item on the consent agenda based on staff recommendations. Second by O’Donnell. Approved 6 – 0. (McCalla not present at this time.) Regular Agenda: 6.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at Lost Addition, Block 69 (PT), a 0.303 acre portion located at 214 West University. Rowe gave the staff report. The applicant is proposing a low profile pole sign to be located in the front yard at 214 West University. The colors for the sign will be burgundy, off white and blue which match the colors of the house. The applicant is also asking for a variance which would allow the sign to go to 24.32 square feet, additional 4.32 square feet over the standard, based on the larger sign next door and faster speed on University Ave. Staff recommends approval of the request and the application. Motion by McCalla to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for signage including a variance as requested by the applicant and recommended by staff. Second by Truehardt. Approved 7 – 0. 7.Request for an amended Certificate of Design Compliance for paint colors at Lost Addition, Block 65 (SW/PT), a 0.3122 acre portion located at 215 West University. Rowe gave the staff report. The applicant is asking to change the paint colors on the main house and the garage at 215 West University. Currently they are approved for brown on the main body of the house and garage with white and red trim and accents. They are proposing to use Palm Leaf for the body of the house with Poncho White and Black Silk for the trim and accents. Additionally they are proposing Calypso for the body of the garage with Poncho White and Black Silk for the trim and accents. Staff recommends approval of the amended Certificate of Design Compliance. Motion by Easley to approve the amended Certificate of Design Compliance for Palm Leaf, Poncho White and Black Silk for the main house and Calypso, Poncho White and Black Silk for the garage as recommended by staff. Second by Damon. Approved 7 – 0. 8.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for renovation of structure at Lost Addition, Block 64 (PT), a 0.12 acre portion located at 211 West 11th Street. Rowe gave the staff report. The applicant is proposing to finish a renovation that is in process . The applicant is proposing to add a garage to the rear of the house and add to the covered porch areas on the front of the house. Because of the lack of integrity and the amount of remodeling that has already been completed staff feels that the best course of action is to allow the remodel to continue as planned. The historic character of this structure is already compromised to the point of being lost . While the remodeling has had a detrimental effect on the structure itself the proposed changes are in keeping with the character of the district and will not have a negative impact on the district as a whole. In its current state of remodel the structure does have a negative impact on the district while its completion would have a more positive affect. The applicant was available for questions . Commissioners discussed paint color options. The applicant said he would like the option of replacing the third color on the window trim with the same color as the siding. Commissioners strongly encouraged the applicant to not do that, but to spend the extra money to improve the look of the structure. Motion by McCalla to approve the application as presented and recommended by staff with the color scheme to be approved in both ways at the owner’s discretion, and encourage the owner to not eliminate the color #3 and replace it with #2. Second by Easley. Approved 7 – 0. 9.Discussion on proposed amendments to the Unified Development Code pertaining to the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, the Downtown Overlay District and Historic Structures. Rowe presented the proposed amendments, including the demolition clause that would require all demolition requests to present a site plan for the site after the demolition or removal of the structure. Also, applicants with substantial rehabilitation of structures in the review district will be required to present a concept plan to the commission for review prior to making formal application for a CDC. There is also a new Demolition by Neglect section added to the UDC that requires owners in the Historic Overlay and Downtown District to maintain their property, and enforcement of such. 10.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and /or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Commission on May 25, 2006. Rowe reported that the City of Georgetown received an $8000 certified local government grant for the historic district survey. This item will be requested in the 2006/2007 budget. Frost presented everyone with new notebooks including the Downtown Master Plan and Design Guidelines. These will be available at the next meeting for those that were not present . Chair Sparks adjourned the meeting at 7:18 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee City of Georgetown, Texas Friday, March 17, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee will meet on Friday, March 17, 2006 at 10:00 AM in the Georgetown Municipal Complex, located at 300 Industrial Blvd, Georgetown, Texas. If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee Members: Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 10:00 AM A special meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lot 3 (pt) a 0.0531 acre portion located at 110 West 8th Street. 2.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lots 6 & 7 a 0.144 acre portion located at 109 West 9th Street. 3.Discussion and possible action on a request for an amended Certificate of Design Compliance for street furniture and awning colors at Lost Addition, Block 65 (pt) located at 1102 South Austin Avenue. 4.Reminder of next regularly scheduled meeting on April 27, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee City of Georgetown, Texas Friday, March 17, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Friday , March 17, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; Chris Damon, Nancy Knight Members Absent: Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic District Planner and Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a sign subcommittee meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: Regular Agenda: 1.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lot 3 (pt) a 0.0531 acre portion located at 110 West 8th Street. Rowe presented the application for window signage and the refacing of a flush mounted wall sign. The plan for the wall sign proposes to reuse the existing sign which is 32 sq. ft. The property only has 21 linear feet so the current sign is non-conforming. Rowe explained that Section 14.06.020 of the UDC allows for non-conforming signs that are being refaced to remain the non-conforming size. Staff recommended approval. Motion by Commissioner Knight to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for re-lettering of the existing wall sign and new window and door signage. Second by Commissioner Damon. Motion approved 3-0. 2.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for signage at City of Georgetown, Block 51, Lots 6 & 7 a 0.144 acre portion, located at 109 West 9th Street. Rowe presented the application for wall and door signage. Both meet the Design Guidelines and an existing projecting sign for the previous business will be removed . Staff recommended approval. Motion by Commissioner Knight to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance for new door and wall signage. Second by Commissioner Damon. Motion approved 3-0. 3.Request for an amended Certificate of Design Compliance for street furniture and awning colors at Lost Addition, Block 65 (pt), located at 1102 South Austin Avenue. Rowe presented the application for new awning colors proposed by the tenants in the two spaces that will have canvas awnings as opposed to the fixed metal canopies. The previously approved awning colors were a green on green stripe. The suite fronting Austin Avenue is proposing black awnings and the suite on the southwest corner is proposing a tonal brown and tan stripe. The subcommittee felt that they were able to approve black awnings without seeing a sample but wanted to see the sample of the stripe before giving final approval. The applicant for that suite was agreeable to having a sample available at his store for the subcommittee to see over the weekend before giving final approval. Rowe also presented the applicant’s proposal for reducing the number of benches to be placed along Austin Avenue. The applicant was previously approved for six benches to be located between planted trees placed perpendicular to the street. The applicant felt that this number of benches would create a cluttered appearance in that area and was proposing to reduce the number of benches to two. Rowe also pointed out that the applicant was seeking approval for under-canopy lighting but no picture was provided showing the fixture. Staff was not able to make a recommendation as to the lighting without a sample. Staff recommended approval of both the awnings and the reduced number of benches. Motion by Commissioner Knight to approve the amended Certificate of Design Compliance for the new awning colors, contingent upon the subcommittee viewing and approving the striped awning sample; to allow staff to administratively review the under canopy lighting fixture when a picture was available; and to approve the reduction in number of benches from six to two. Second by Commissioner Damon. The subcommittee had some difficulties discerning the previously approved locations of the benches and the proposed new locations. No information was given by the applicant as to how the benches would be placed. The subcommittee debated as to whether or not 2 benches would create the pedestrian oriented streetscape that the city is looking for , if there should be a bench located nearer to the corner of Austin and University for bus routes and whether or not the benches should be positioned to face Austin Avenue or the buildings. Rowe pointed out that the Design Guidelines call for a buffer between benches and traffic so facing the buildings might be more appropriate. The subcommittee felt that they would better be able to discuss the issues on site . Motion by Commissioner Knight and seconded by Commissioner Damon. Denied 0-3. Motion by Commissioner Knight to approve the new colors of the awnings contingent on subcommittee approval of the striped material. Second by Commissioner Damon. Motion approved 3-0. Motion by Commissioner Knight to approve under -canopy lighting fixtures subject to staff’s final approval of the design of the fixtures. Second by Commissioner Damon. Motion approved 3-0. Motion by Commissioner Damon to reconvene the subcommittee meeting at 1102 South Austin Avenue in 10 minutes to discuss the issue of benches on site. Second by Commissioner Knight. Motion approved 3-0. On site at 1102 South Austin Avenue, the subcommittee expressed that they felt more than two benches could be managed by the site and not feel too crowded. The site plan presented proposed the benches be located at two of the planters. Since there are a total of five planters on site the subcommittee discussed having a bench at each planter. They did agree that the previously approved configuration was not accurately represented on the site plan and did not appear to work. The subcommittee noticed that some of the under-canopy lights had already been installed. While they did not necessarily object to the appearance of the fixtures they did feel that they could perhaps be further recessed. The commissioners asked staff to raise this issue with the applicant. Motion by Commissioner Knight to approve the reduction of the number of benches from six to five; benches to be located in front of each planter , facing the buildings, and a minimum of 6 feet long. Second by Commissioner Damon. Motion approved 3-0. Motion by Commissioner Damon to adjourn. Second by Commissioner Knight. Meeting adjourned at 11:30 a.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Wednesday, March 1, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the Council Chambers at 103 W. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Karalei Nunn, Vice Chair; John Chapman; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys, Rick O’Donnell; John Truehardt; Chris Damon Alternates: Linda McCalla; Nancy Knight Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM This is a rescheduled meeting from the February 23, 2006 date. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the December 15, 2005 meeting. 3.Report on the meeting of the January 26, 2006 subcommittee. Regular Agenda: 4.Certificate of Design Compliance for a new ATM location and surround at Lost Addition, Block 14, a 0.373 acre portion located at 1111 South Austin Avenue. 5.Certificate of Design Compliance for front and rear façade changes at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 5 (pts), 0.06 acres located at 714 South Austin Avenue. 6.Certificate of Design Compliance for façade changes at City of Georgetown, Block 27, Lots 1-8 located at 501 South Austin Avenue. 7.Presentation and discussion on allowing a building height of forty-seven feet (47’) for a proposed building at City of Georgetown, Block 27, Lots 1-8 located at 501 South Austin Avenue. 8.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Board on Thursday, March 23, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Wednesday, March 1, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Wednesday , March 1, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; Karalei Nunn, Vice Chair; John Chapman; Chris Damon; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys; Linda McCalla, alternate; and John Truehardt. Members Absent: Rick O'Donnell, secretary Members Present but not participating: Nancy Knight, alternate was present but did not serve. Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic Review Planner; Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Minutes Regular Meeting Meeting was called to order at 6:07 p.m. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular rescheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. Linda McCalla was asked to serve in Rick O’Donnell’s absence. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the December 15, 2005 meeting. Chair Sparks noted an amendment that needed to be made under item number seven. The last sentenced read “Commissioners discussed the project with Mr. Choi and were generally agreeable to his ideas.” The words “to the addition at the rear, including an additional story on the back portion of the building, taking the curved rooftop off and adding another story for a total of three stories.” were added to the end of the sentence. And they were only agreeable to the addition of the building, not the site plan. Motion by Chapman, Second by Truehardt to accept the minutes as amended. Motion passed, 8 – 0, with abstention by Gray. 3.Report on the meeting of the January 26, 2006 subcommittee. Rowe gave the report of the subcommittee meeting of January 26. She stated they issued a 6 month temporary real estate sign for a home occupation on Church Street . This item will come back to the Commission for permanent approval after that time. Regular Agenda: 4.Certificate of Design Compliance for a new ATM location and surround at Lost Addition, Block 14, a 0.373 acre portion located at 1111 South Austin Avenue. Rowe gave a summary of the item. The applicant is proposing to relocate an ATM that is currently existing in a drive-through lane to the rear, east facade of the structure. The ATM would be located in a limestone surround with a metal canopy cover. She stated that there are no specific guidelines addressing materials for ATM structures. The metal roof canopy is an acceptable material per the Design Guidelines. The applicant, Lee Alexander, was available to answer questions. He stated the structure was specifically designed to meet the City’s requirements. Commissioner Nunn questioned the use of limestone when the building that it was matching is painted brick. The applicant stated the structure was designed to blend, at the request of the Commission. Motion by Truehardt for approval of the Certificate of Design Compliance per the staff recommendation “for the new ATM location, proposed surround, including materials, and the painted red metal roof.” Second by Damon. Certificate of Design Compliance is approved, 5 – 4. (Gray, Easley, Nunn and McCalla opposed.) 5.Certificate of Design Compliance for front and rear façade changes at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 5 (pts), 0.06 acres located at 714 South Austin Avenue. Rowe summarized the application. the applicant is proposing to repaint the windows and various trim on the front facade, to reopen windows on the rear facade and to turn a window into a door on the rear facade to allow for a fire stair according to the building code. Staff recommends approval. Commissioners stated they needed to see paint colors to make a final decision. The approval process and options of dividing the application were discussed. Motion by Truehardt to approve the application subject to a subcommittee review of paint colors where being painted . Second by Nunn. Approved 9 – 0. 6.Certificate of Design Compliance for façade changes at City of Georgetown, Block 27, Lots 1-8 located at 501 South Austin Avenue. Rowe reports the applicant is proposing the change in location of the electric transformer from the parking lot to the northwest side of the building of Phase 2 or 3, depending on the phasing schedule, and that the transformer would be screened with a fence and a gate. The approval is requested for the location of the transformer, not the screening materials at this time. She clarified that this action would be based on the drawings dated February 26, 2006. Rowe also stated that the applicant is proposing to amend the previously approved Certificate of Design Compliance to eliminate the curved roof on the eastern two-thirds of the building and to continue the approved design on the remainder of the building . There is also an increase in balconies on the north and south elevations, and recessing portions of the building by 3 feet in depth to meet the Design guidelines for articulation. Rowe stated the recessed portions must be 5 feet in depth to be in compliance and the applicant has agreed to that amount and that is reflected in the recommended motion. Staff recommends approval of the amendment to supersede previous approvals on these elements. Rowe reminded the Commission that the City Attorney states normally subsequent approvals control, and that by granting subsequent approvals, termination or revocation of any prior approvals are made and must be included in the action so that approvals are clear. The items covered in this application are the curved roof, the balconies and allowing the second and third floors materials to continue in this pattern . Mr. Choi, the applicant answered questions of the Commission. There was deliberation of several elements of the building. Choi asked for a decision of the Commission so he may move forward. Motion by Nunn to approve the amended Certificate of Design Compliance for changes to the massing of the north and south facades, the simplification of the Austin Avenue facade, the added terraces and with the condition that the recessed portions of the north and south elevations be changed from 3 feet deep to 5 feet deep that is only at the first level, and that the copper roofs be removed from the octagonal protrusions at the Austin Avenue facade. And this motion will supersede the previously approved Certificate of Design Compliance as related to these specific elements. Second by McCalla. Motion approved 9 -0. 7.Presentation and discussion on allowing a building height of forty-seven feet (47’) for a proposed building at City of Georgetown, Block 27, Lots 1-8 located at 501 South Austin Avenue. This item was discussed by the Commission with Mr. Choi, the applicant. Mr. Choi stated that with an allowed penthouse level, the area of the building will be 35,000 square feet. Without the penthouse, the area of the building would be 30,000 square feet, making the penthouse more marketable and desirable for the owner. There was a discussion of “extraordinary” and whether adding the penthouse, extra height, would make this an extraordinary building, and whether the Commission would approve the extraordinary extra height of the building considering the other buildings in the area.. Mr. Bode, the applicants’ architect discussed his justification for requesting the extra height for this building. Mr. Choi thanked the commission for the discussion. 8.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Board on Thursday, March 23, 2006. Rowe stated the March 23rd meeting only had two applications for signs and a request for a decrease in the amount of benches approved in a CDC. She requested that the regular meeting be rescheduled as a subcommittee meeting to discuss these items. The Commission concurred with that request. Rowe will send an e-mail to Commissioners with a proposed date of the Subcommittee meeting to approve the color samples for 714 S. Austin Ave. Chair Sparks adjourned the meeting at 8:05 p.m. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, February 23, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission will meet on Thursday, February 23, 2006 at 06:00 PM in the Council Chambers, 103 W. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Karalei Nunn, Vice Chair; John Chapman; Clare Easley; Beebe Gray; Jim Keys, Rick O’Donnell; John Truehardt; Chris Damon Alternates: Linda McCalla; Nancy Knight Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 06:00 PM This meeting has been rescheduled to Wednesday , March 1, 2006 at 6:00 p.m. We apologize any inconvenience this may cause. Please call Planning & Development if you have any questions at 930-3575. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Chairman may appoint alternate(s) to serve at this meeting. 2.Review and possible approval of the minutes from the December 15, 2005 meeting. 3.Report on the meeting of the January 26, 2006 subcommittee. Regular Agenda: 4.Certificate of Design Compliance for a new ATM location and surround at Lost Addition, Block 14, a 0.373 acre portion located at 1111 South Austin Avenue. 5.Certificate of Design Compliance for front and rear façade changes at City of Georgetown, Block 41, Lot 5 (pts), 0.06 acres located at 714 South Austin Avenue. 6.Certificate of Design Compliance for façade changes at City of Georgetown, Block 27, Lots 1-8 located at 501 South Austin Avenue. 7.Presentation and discussion on allowing a building height of forty-seven feet (47’) for a proposed building at City of Georgetown, Block 27, Lots 1-8 located at 501 South Austin Avenue. 8.Comments, questions and general discussion from Commission and/or staff. A.Reminder of the next meeting of the Board on Thursday , March 23, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, February 23, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , February 23, 2006. Members Present: Members Absent: Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Minutes Regular Meeting This meeting was rescheduled to Wednesday, March 1, 2006 at 6:00 p.m. Please see the minutes under that date's agenda. Notice of Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, January 26, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee will meet on Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 10:00 AM in the Georgetown Municipal Complex, located at 300 Industrial Blvd, Georgetown, Texas. If you need accommodations for a disability, please notify the city in advance. Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee Members: Mike Sparks, Chair; Karalei Nunn, Vice-Chair; Rick O'Donnell, Secretary Historic and Architectural Review Commission meets every fourth Thursday of the month at 6:00 p.m. unless otherwise specified. Call to Order at 10:00 AM Meeting to be called to order at 10 a.m. A special meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee for consideration and possible action on the following: 1.Discussion and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for a low profile pole sign at Morrow Addition, Block F & G (pts), a 0.31 acre portion located at 1214 South Church Street. 2.Reminder of next regularly scheduled meeting on February 23, 2006. Certificate of Posting I, Sandra Lee, City Secretary for the City of Georgetown, Texas, do hereby certify that this Notice of Meeting was posted at City Hall, 113 E. 8th Street, a place readily accessible to the general public at all times, on the _____ day of _________________, 2006, at __________, and remained so posted for at least 72 continuous hours preceding the scheduled time of said meeting. __________________________________ Sandra Lee, City Secretary Minutes of the Meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee City of Georgetown, Texas Thursday, January 26, 2006 The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Subcommittee of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , January 26, 2006. Members Present: Mike Sparks, Chair; Karalei Nunn, Vice-Chair; and Rick O'Donnell, Secretary Members Absent: Members Present but not participating: Staff Present: Rebecca Rowe, Historic District Planner Minutes Regular Meeting The Historic and Architectural Review Commission is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a sign subcommittee meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission, for consideration and possible action on the following: Regular Agenda: 1.Request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for a low profile pole sign at Morrow Addition, Blocks F & G (pts), Lot 961131, a 0.31 acre portion located at 1214 South Church Street. Rowe presented the application and recommended approval. She explained that the original proposal included the face of the sign being made of coroplast, a plastic material, which is not allowable under the Design Guidelines. The applicant agreed to change the material to aluminum to be in compliance with the Design Guidelines. Motion by Commissioner O’Donnell to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance as presented and with staff recommendation. Second by Commissioner Nunn. Commissioner Nunn expressed concern over allowing real estate type signs as permanent signage. She suggested a friendly amendment to the motion approving the sign for a period of six months. At which time the applicant would come back before HARC with a more permanent solution . The applicant stated that her goal was to be in a permanent office at some point within the next year and would be applying for permanent signage at that time. The friendly amendment was accepted by Commissioner O’Donnell. Approved 3 -0. Motion by Commissioner Nunn to adjourn. Second by Commissioner O’Donnell. Meeting adjourned at 10:15 a.m.