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August 26, 2010
City of Georgetown, Texas
Historic and Architectural Review Commission Meeting
Minutes
Thursday, August 26. 2010 at 6:00 p.m.
City Council and Courts Building 101 E. 7th Street, Georgetown, Texas 78626
Members Present: Will Moore, Chair; Susan Firth; Greg Herriott; J.C. Johnson; Larry Moseley;
Ron Pergl; and Dee Rapp
Members Absent: none
Staff Present: Robbie Wyler, Historic District Planner; Valerie Kreger, Principal Planner; and
Karen Frost, Recording Secretary
Regular Session - To begin no earlier than 6:00 p.m.
Chair Moore called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m.
The Historic and Architectural Review Commission, appointed by the Mayor and the City Council,
is responsible for hearing and taking final action on applications, by issuing Certificates of Design
Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines and Unified
Development Code.
Consent Agenda:
The Consent Agenda includes non-controversial and routine items that the Commission may act
on with one single vote. A Commissioner or any member of the public may request that any
item from the Consent Agenda be pulled in order that the Commission discuss and act upon it
individually as part of the Regular Agenda. The Historic and Architectural Review
Commission's approval of an item on the Consent Agenda will be consistent with the staff
recommendation described in the report, unless otherwise noted.
1. Review and possible approval of the minutes from the July 22nd, 2010 Regular HARC meeting
and July 29th, 2010 Special HARC meeting.
Motion by Pergl to approve the July 22 minutes. Second by Johnson. Approved 7 – 0.
Motion by Moseley to approve the July 29 minutes. Second by Rapp. Approved 7 – 0.
2. Consideration and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for
signage at Morrow Addition, Block G (pt), also known as Whitestone Tire Center, located at
114 E. University Avenue. (CDC-2010-016)
Pergl stated the Sign Subcommittee reviewed this application and approved it at the earlier
meeting.
Regular Agenda:
3. Consideration and possible action on a request for Certificate of Design Compliance for
exterior changes at Lost Addition, Block 14 (se/pt), also known as Dos Salsas, located at 1104
S. Main Street. (CDC-2010-018)
Wyler presented the staff report. The applicant seeks Certificate of Design Compliance
(CDC) approval for exterior changes to the restaurant, including the installation and staining
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of the canopy soffit and the addition of two television enclosures. Staff recommends
approval of the wood paneling, stain colors and two painted television cases, as proposed by
the applicant based on Guidelines 5.9, 8.4 & 8.22.
Matt Williams and John Voelter were available for questions as the applicant’s agents.
Firth began the questions with asking about the chosen color and whether it matches the
front door color. She stated she doesn’t think it is the same. (Greg Herriott came in at 6:10.)
Williams explained that he felt it was close and that the yellow was supposed to match the
existing stucco upper columns. Rapp suggested repainting the upper columns to match the
soffit if it turns out the paint does not match and allowing staff to make that determination.
Rapp questioned setting a precedent with the acceptance of the outdoor televisions. There
was further discussion of the appropriateness of the outdoor televisions in the historic
district and whether it could be considered signage if it was visible from the street. Voelter
pointed out that this was a unique situation in that this was the only restaurant in the district
with an outdoor seating area visible from the street. Johnson did not want to approve the
exterior televisions based on the fact that they are not listed in the Downtown Guidelines.
Rapp continued the discussion of setting a precedence but thinks the television enclosure
boxes are good in minimizing the effect of the televisions. Moore explained that each case is
unique and he agreed with Voelter that this is a special case. Voelter agreed he does not
want to see televisions across the square but that this one is set back far enough as to not be
obtrusive.
Motion by Johnson to approve Item 2 on the applicant’s request letter. Item 2 would
provide a new stain finish on the existing exterior soffit. The proposed “field” color is Bright
Tamra DP 528 and proposed color for the center “accent” area is Royal Hayden DP 537.
Second by Firth. Approved 7 – 0.
The televisions were discussed again and whether they were to be considered signage or not.
Wyler provided that if the television were on a regular broadcast station that it was not
considered signage, but that if the television was showing advertisement for the business in
which they were located and placed so that the television was visible from the street, then it
would be considered a sign.
Moseley was more concerned about the location of the boxes. Herriott suggested moving the
location of the television boxes to be placed behind the existing columns, minimizing the
effect and visibility from the street. Voelter and Williams agreed that would be a possibility.
They requested being able to work with staff on the details.
Motion by Johnson to table Item 1 of the application, to install two televisions with
enclosures on the outside patio, until next month’s regular meeting to allow staff and the
applicant the opportunity to address the televisions and their locations. Second by Moseley.
Pergl pointed out that it would be allowed to approve the televisions in this unique situation
without setting a precedent. Vote: Approved 7 – 0.
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4. Reminder that the next regular HARC meeting will take place on September 23, 2010.
5. Adjournment. Chair Moore adjourned the meeting at 6:44 p.m.
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Approved, Will Moore, Chair Attest, Susan Firth, Secretary