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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes_HARC_11.10.2010_Special SessionHistoric and Architectural Review Commission Sign Subcommittee Page 1 of 3 November 10, 2010 City of Georgetown, Texas Historic and Architectural Review Commission Sign Subcommittee Meeting Minutes Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:00 p.m. Georgetown Municipal Complex, Williamson Conference Room 300-1 Industrial Ave, Georgetown, Texas 78626 Members present: Ron Pergl; Susan Firth; and Dee Rapp Members absent: none Staff present: Robbie Wyler, Historic District Planner; and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary Call to order by Pergl at 4:02 p.m. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Sign Subcommittee is responsible for hearing and taking final action on sign applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting of the Sign Subcommittee, for consideration and possible action on the following: 1. Review and possible approval of the minutes from the October 28, 2010 Sign Subcommittee Meeting. Corrections were made to the minutes: On page 2, Rapp asked if the signs could be discussed individually; Pergl thought that was a good idea; The Commissioners agreed they were okay with the concept because the picture is similar to the one in the restaurant; and The Commissioners suggested the fonts and border colors of each sign should be consistent. Motion by Rapp to accept the minutes with the changes. Second by Firth. Approved 3 – 0. 2. Consideration and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for new signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 3 (n/pt), also known as Kenz Guitars, located at 705 Main Street. (CDC-2010-024) Wyler presented the Staff Report. The applicant seeks Certificate of Design Compliance approval from HARC for a flush-mounted wall sign that will read “Kenz Guitars” in a Cartoon font. The sign will be installed on the west-facing facade as shown in the provided photo. Colors for the sign consist of black and white for the name of the business and shades of tan and brown for the backdrop and two crossed guitars. Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Design Compliance for the flush-mounted wall sign as proposed by the applicant with the following condition: 1) Staff recommends the applicant use a simpler and more traditional font for the sign. A Times Bold or Standard Block font would be appropriate. This will better tie the sign in with others around the Square. Attached is a sheet with several different font types for HARC’s consideration. The applicant was not available for comment. Rapp questioned the use of the font on the Historic and Architectural Review Commission Sign Subcommittee Page 2 of 3 November 10, 2010 proposed sign and whether it matched the font of the current logo on another location, asking if it was a “corporate” type logo, shown on other items with the same logo. The answer was not available. Firth questioned the use of gradient color on the sign and the inconsistency with other signs on the Square. Pergl stated he did not mind the gradient, but agrees that the consistency should be considered. He suggested a solid color in the middle range of the gradient which would allow the border and shadowing to show more clearly. The Commissioners also questioned the use and application of other signs for this business. Wyler responded this is the only sign on the application and the applicant can come back for additional signage. Motion by Firth to approve the Certificate of Design for the sign with the condition that the background of the sign be one color, which is to be approved by staff, and the color is to not hide the border or lettering of the sign. Second by Rapp. Approved 3 – 0. 3. Consideration and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for new signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 2 (n/pt), also known as Plus Four Dining, located at 110 E. 7th Street. (CDC-2010-025) Wyler presented the Staff Report. The applicant seeks Certificate of Design Compliance approval for new restaurant signs. The first is a projecting sign that will read “Plus Four Dining” in the corporate font and colors with “Landmark Tavern” and the address hanging below on separated tenant panels. The panels will be hung by chain from an existing black, metal bracket and will have an 8.5-foot clearance underneath. Next, the applicant proposes signage on the windows and one door. The window advertise- ment will consist of an eight-inch frosted band with cutout letters across the bottom of the windows that will read “serving lunch and dinner”. Adjacent to each band will be the name of the restaurant in the same colors and font as the hanging sign. Below the eight-inch band will be a smaller band that will provide additional restaurant details. Together, the two bands will measure ten inches tall. There will also be an additional vinyl decal on the main entrance door facing 7th Street. The sign will be in the same font as the other signs but will be entirely whit e and will have “Main Entrance” in a cut out band below, directing patrons to the main door. The applicant also proposes utilizing an existing space where a hanging sign from the previous business existed. The sign will be hung underneath the canopy at the corner of 7th and Main Streets. In the same colors and fonts as the other signs, the sign will be diagonally hung by chains allowing visibility from both streets and will provide just over an eight-foot clearance underneath. Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Design Compliance for the projecting, window/door and hanging signs as proposed by the applicant. Judith Manriquez, building owner and agent for the restaurant was present for questions. Rapp questioned the size of the brackets for the hanging sign. Ms. Manriquez explained that the brackets were slightly different than before, but that the sign face would remain the same as before. There was discussion of the reasoning for making the main entrance on 7th Street instead of at the door on Main Street. The owner explained that it was meant to enhance the dining experience by having the customers come through the hallway. The Commissioners questioned the lack of an A-frame directional sign to direct customers to the 7th Street entrance Historic and Architectural Review Commission Sign Subcommittee Page 3 of 3 November 10, 2010 and he explained that he did not want that at this time but would come back if he changed his mind. The commissioners and Ms. Manriquez discussed the colors of the signs. The printed color was slightly different than the actual colors to be used. The actual colors were described as white, or an etched glass color, deep red and purple. Motion by Firth to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance as proposed by the applicant, with an encouragement to request and install an A-frame sign for direction. Second by Rapp. Approved 3 – 0. 4. Consideration and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for new signage at Glasscock Addition, Block 2, Lot 45 and part of Lots 3 & 6, also known as the Main Street Baptist Church Worship Center, located at 111 W. 10th Street. Wyler presented the Staff Report. The applicant seeks Certificate of Design Compliance approval for a projecting sign to be installed perpendicularly on the 10th Street side of the building. The sign will read “Main Street Worship Center” in a black Times font and will match other signs currently installed on the building. Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Design Compliance for the projecting sign as proposed by the applicant with the following condition : Staff recommends the applicant raise the installation point of the sign slightly to comply with Guideline 9.8, providing the required 8- foot clearance. Jim Cummins was available for questions. He stated this sign would be the same as the existing sign, but with changed wording. Motion by Rapp to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance as submitted, including an eight foot clearance as required by the Guidelines. Second by Pergl. Approved 3 – 0. 5. Adjournment. Pergl adjourned the meeting at 4:34 p.m. ___________________________________ _________________________________ Approved, Ron Pergl, Chair Attest, Susan Firth