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November 10, 2010
City of Georgetown, Texas
Historic and Architectural Review Commission Sign Subcommittee Meeting
Minutes
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:00 p.m.
Georgetown Municipal Complex, Williamson Conference Room
300-1 Industrial Ave, Georgetown, Texas 78626
Members present: Ron Pergl; Susan Firth; and Dee Rapp
Members absent: none
Staff present: Robbie Wyler, Historic District Planner; and Karen Frost, Recording Secretary
Call to order by Pergl at 4:02 p.m.
The Historic and Architectural Review Commission Sign Subcommittee is responsible for hearing
and taking final action on sign applications, by issuing Certificates of Design Compliance based
upon the City Council adopted Downtown Design Guidelines. This is a regular scheduled meeting
of the Sign Subcommittee, for consideration and possible action on the following:
1. Review and possible approval of the minutes from the October 28, 2010 Sign Subcommittee
Meeting.
Corrections were made to the minutes: On page 2, Rapp asked if the signs could be discussed
individually; Pergl thought that was a good idea; The Commissioners agreed they were okay
with the concept because the picture is similar to the one in the restaurant; and The
Commissioners suggested the fonts and border colors of each sign should be consistent.
Motion by Rapp to accept the minutes with the changes. Second by Firth. Approved 3 – 0.
2. Consideration and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for new
signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 3 (n/pt), also known as Kenz Guitars, located at 705
Main Street. (CDC-2010-024)
Wyler presented the Staff Report. The applicant seeks Certificate of Design Compliance
approval from HARC for a flush-mounted wall sign that will read “Kenz Guitars” in a Cartoon
font. The sign will be installed on the west-facing facade as shown in the provided photo.
Colors for the sign consist of black and white for the name of the business and shades of tan and
brown for the backdrop and two crossed guitars.
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Design Compliance for the flush-mounted wall
sign as proposed by the applicant with the following condition:
1) Staff recommends the applicant use a simpler and more traditional font for
the sign. A Times Bold or Standard Block font would be appropriate. This
will better tie the sign in with others around the Square. Attached is a
sheet with several different font types for HARC’s consideration.
The applicant was not available for comment. Rapp questioned the use of the font on the
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proposed sign and whether it matched the font of the current logo on another location, asking if
it was a “corporate” type logo, shown on other items with the same logo. The answer was not
available. Firth questioned the use of gradient color on the sign and the inconsistency with
other signs on the Square. Pergl stated he did not mind the gradient, but agrees that the
consistency should be considered. He suggested a solid color in the middle range of the
gradient which would allow the border and shadowing to show more clearly.
The Commissioners also questioned the use and application of other signs for this business.
Wyler responded this is the only sign on the application and the applicant can come back for
additional signage.
Motion by Firth to approve the Certificate of Design for the sign with the condition that the
background of the sign be one color, which is to be approved by staff, and the color is to not
hide the border or lettering of the sign. Second by Rapp. Approved 3 – 0.
3. Consideration and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for new
signage at City of Georgetown, Block 40, Lot 2 (n/pt), also known as Plus Four Dining, located at
110 E. 7th Street. (CDC-2010-025)
Wyler presented the Staff Report. The applicant seeks Certificate of Design Compliance
approval for new restaurant signs. The first is a projecting sign that will read “Plus Four
Dining” in the corporate font and colors with “Landmark Tavern” and the address hanging
below on separated tenant panels. The panels will be hung by chain from an existing black,
metal bracket and will have an 8.5-foot clearance underneath.
Next, the applicant proposes signage on the windows and one door. The window advertise-
ment will consist of an eight-inch frosted band with cutout letters across the bottom of the
windows that will read “serving lunch and dinner”. Adjacent to each band will be the name of
the restaurant in the same colors and font as the hanging sign. Below the eight-inch band will
be a smaller band that will provide additional restaurant details. Together, the two bands will
measure ten inches tall. There will also be an additional vinyl decal on the main entrance door
facing 7th Street. The sign will be in the same font as the other signs but will be entirely whit e
and will have “Main Entrance” in a cut out band below, directing patrons to the main door.
The applicant also proposes utilizing an existing space where a hanging sign from the previous
business existed. The sign will be hung underneath the canopy at the corner of 7th and Main
Streets. In the same colors and fonts as the other signs, the sign will be diagonally hung by
chains allowing visibility from both streets and will provide just over an eight-foot clearance
underneath. Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Design Compliance for the
projecting, window/door and hanging signs as proposed by the applicant.
Judith Manriquez, building owner and agent for the restaurant was present for questions. Rapp
questioned the size of the brackets for the hanging sign. Ms. Manriquez explained that the
brackets were slightly different than before, but that the sign face would remain the same as
before. There was discussion of the reasoning for making the main entrance on 7th Street
instead of at the door on Main Street. The owner explained that it was meant to enhance the
dining experience by having the customers come through the hallway. The Commissioners
questioned the lack of an A-frame directional sign to direct customers to the 7th Street entrance
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and he explained that he did not want that at this time but would come back if he changed his
mind.
The commissioners and Ms. Manriquez discussed the colors of the signs. The printed color was
slightly different than the actual colors to be used. The actual colors were described as white, or
an etched glass color, deep red and purple.
Motion by Firth to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance as proposed by the
applicant, with an encouragement to request and install an A-frame sign for direction. Second
by Rapp. Approved 3 – 0.
4. Consideration and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Design Compliance for new
signage at Glasscock Addition, Block 2, Lot 45 and part of Lots 3 & 6, also known as the Main
Street Baptist Church Worship Center, located at 111 W. 10th Street.
Wyler presented the Staff Report. The applicant seeks Certificate of Design Compliance
approval for a projecting sign to be installed perpendicularly on the 10th Street side of the
building. The sign will read “Main Street Worship Center” in a black Times font and will
match other signs currently installed on the building.
Staff recommends approval of the Certificate of Design Compliance for the projecting sign as
proposed by the applicant with the following condition : Staff recommends the applicant raise
the installation point of the sign slightly to comply with Guideline 9.8, providing the required 8-
foot clearance.
Jim Cummins was available for questions. He stated this sign would be the same as the existing
sign, but with changed wording.
Motion by Rapp to approve the Certificate of Design Compliance as submitted, including an
eight foot clearance as required by the Guidelines. Second by Pergl. Approved 3 – 0.
5. Adjournment. Pergl adjourned the meeting at 4:34 p.m.
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Approved, Ron Pergl, Chair Attest, Susan Firth